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Message-ID: <20121206213133.GB4821@thunk.org>
Date:	Thu, 6 Dec 2012 16:31:33 -0500
From:	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>
To:	Jeremy Allison <jra@...ba.org>
Cc:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Pavel Shilovsky <piastry@...rsoft.ru>,
	linux-cifs@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, wine-devel@...ehq.org,
	linux-nfs@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Add O_DENY* flags to fcntl and cifs

On Thu, Dec 06, 2012 at 11:57:52AM -0800, Jeremy Allison wrote:
> 
> And this is where things get really ugly of course :-).
> 
> For the CIFSFS client they're expecting to be able to
> just ship them to a Windows server, where they'll
> get the (insane) Windows semantics. These semantics
> are not what would be wanted on a local filesystem.

I'm confused; why would a userspace application need to be able to
request this behavior?  I can understand why an SMB client might
depend on this so it can use Windows' insane cache coherency scheme.
Are you trying to let Samba act as a middle man, where a remote file
system is mounted on Linux, and then Samba will try to act as a SMB
server, so you want to be able to pass through these semantics, i.e.:

   Windows SMB Server <--->  Linux cifs remote file system <--->
      Linux Samba server <---> Windows SMB client

Is this somewhat contrivuewd example the intended use case?  Or
something else?

					- Ted
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