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Message-Id: <20130110135828.c88bcaf1.akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Date:	Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:58:28 -0800
From:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
To:	Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org>
Cc:	linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@...cle.com>,
	Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@...gle.com>,
	Bryan Freed <bfreed@...gle.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm: forcely swapout when we are out of page cache

On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:23:06 +0900
Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org> wrote:

> > I have a feeling that laptop mode has bitrotted and these patches are
> > kinda hacking around as-yet-not-understood failures...
> 
> Absolutely, this patch is last guard for unexpectable behavior.
> As I mentioned in cover-letter, Luigi's problem could be solved either [1/2]
> or [2/2] but I wanted to add this as last resort in case of unexpected
> emergency. But you're right. It's not good to hide the problem like this path
> so let's drop [2/2].
> 
> Also, I absolutely agree it has bitrotted so for correcting it, we need a
> volunteer who have to inverstigate power saveing experiment with long time.
> So [1/2] would be band-aid until that.

I'm inclined to hold off on 1/2 as well, really.

The point of laptop_mode isn't to save power btw - it is to minimise
the frequency with which the disk drive is spun up.  By deferring and
then batching writeout operations, basically.
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