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Message-ID: <20130110022306.GB14685@blaptop>
Date:	Thu, 10 Jan 2013 11:23:06 +0900
From:	Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org>
To:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@...cle.com>,
	Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@...gle.com>,
	Bryan Freed <bfreed@...gle.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm: forcely swapout when we are out of page cache

On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 04:26:02PM -0800, Andrew Morton wrote:
> On Wed,  9 Jan 2013 15:21:14 +0900
> Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org> wrote:
> 
> > If laptop_mode is enable, VM try to avoid I/O for saving the power.
> > But if there isn't reclaimable memory without I/O, we should do I/O
> > for preventing unnecessary OOM kill although we sacrifices power.
> > 
> > One of example is that we are out of page cache. Remained one is
> > only anonymous pages, for swapping out, we needs may_writepage = 1.
> > 
> > Reported-by: Luigi Semenzato <semenzato@...gle.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Minchan Kim <minchan@...nel.org>
> > ---
> >  mm/vmscan.c |    6 ++++++
> >  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
> > 
> > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> > index 439cc47..624c816 100644
> > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> > @@ -1728,6 +1728,12 @@ static void get_scan_count(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct scan_control *sc,
> >  		free = zone_page_state(zone, NR_FREE_PAGES);
> >  		if (unlikely(file + free <= high_wmark_pages(zone))) {
> >  			scan_balance = SCAN_ANON;
> > +			/*
> > +			 * From now on, we have to swap out
> > +			 * for peventing OOM kill although
> > +			 * we sacrifice power consumption.
> > +			 */
> > +			sc->may_writepage = 1;
> >  			goto out;
> >  		}
> >  	}
> 
> This is pretty ugly.  get_scan_count() is, as its name implies, an
> idempotent function which inspects the state of things and returns a
> result.  As such, it has no business going in and altering the state of
> the scan_control.
> 
> We have code in both direct reclaim and in kswapd to set may_writepage
> if vmscan is getting into trouble.  I don't see why adding another
> instance is necessary if the existing instances are working correctly.
> 
> 
> 
> (Is it correct that __zone_reclaim() ignores laptop_mode?)
> 
> 
> I have a feeling that laptop mode has bitrotted and these patches are
> kinda hacking around as-yet-not-understood failures...

Absolutely, this patch is last guard for unexpectable behavior.
As I mentioned in cover-letter, Luigi's problem could be solved either [1/2]
or [2/2] but I wanted to add this as last resort in case of unexpected
emergency. But you're right. It's not good to hide the problem like this path
so let's drop [2/2].

Also, I absolutely agree it has bitrotted so for correcting it, we need a
volunteer who have to inverstigate power saveing experiment with long time.
So [1/2] would be band-aid until that.

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