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Message-ID: <CAA6KcBBdPeS1yEq0SUCzrqSkow1-fCUdp+pfsDX3CWX-uuBGdA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 4 Mar 2013 08:59:10 -0800
From:	Matthew Dharm <mdharm-usb@...-eyed-alien.net>
To:	Bjørn Mork <bjorn@...k.no>
Cc:	Ben Hutchings <ben@...adent.org.uk>,
	"linux-usb@...r.kernel.org" <linux-usb@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Fangxiaozhi (Franko)" <fangxiaozhi@...wei.com>, zihan@...wei.com,
	Lin.Lei@...wei.com, Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	"Yili (Neil)" <neil.yi@...wei.com>,
	"Wangyuhua (Roger, Credit)" <wangyuhua@...wei.com>,
	Huqiao <huqiao36@...wei.com>, Felipe Balbi <balbi@...com>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <sebastian@...akpoint.cc>,
	stable <stable@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] USB: storage: fix Huawei mode switching regression

Frankly, I consider it appropriate.

The question is not one of reminding me of what I said earlier....
it's one of pointing people in the right direction.  Frankly, some of
the fault for this patch lies with Greg and myself for letting it
through.  I had just assumed that the Huawei guys had already been in
touch with usb-modeswitch for some reason, and that this was just an
optimization of existing logic (not an expansion).  And, frankly, I
was just a bit tired of fighting this fight over and over again;
having something in the file which says "here's the right and official
way to do this" would be good.

I also asked the Huawei guys about the possibility of affecting other
devices than the one listed.... I guess one of us either wasn't clear
or mis-understood the request.  The fact that there are devices out
there failing now illustrates that.  Avoiding breaking existing
systems is one of the highest priorities....

Who is maintaining usb-modeswitch these days, anyway?  The comment in
the file should point people directly there....

And, as of now, I would really like to see as many of these devices
migrated (albeit slowly) to using usb-modeswitch wherever possible.  I
know there are a few devices for which that might not be possible, but
I am DONE dealing with this same issue over and over and over again.
It will certainly be work to migrate support; maybe we should wrap all
the relevant unusual_devs.h entires with
CONFIG_UPDATED_MODESWITCH_INSTALLED_SO_MAKE_THESE_GO_AWAY during a
transition period?

Matt



On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Bjørn Mork <bjorn@...k.no> wrote:
> Ben Hutchings <ben@...adent.org.uk> writes:
>> On Mon, 2013-03-04 at 14:19 +0100, Bjørn Mork wrote:
>> [...]
>>> In-kernel mode switching was deprecated years ago with the
>>> development of the more user friendly userspace alternatives. The
>>> existing list of devices in usb-storage was only kept to prevent
>>> breaking already working systems.  The long term plan is to remove
>>> the list, not to add to it. Ref:
>>> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.usb.general/28543
>> [...]
>>
>> Can you add a comment to this effect?
>
> In the table in unusual_devs.h, you mean?  Sure, I can do that.
>
> But it feels a bit strange since I can only quote and/or refer to what
> Matthew and Greg said about the issue years ago.  Putting a comment in
> the code to remind the current maintainers about their own statements
> could be considered out of line?  Or is this appropriate here?
>
>
> Bjørn



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Matthew Dharm
Maintainer, USB Mass Storage driver for Linux
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