lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite for Android: free password hash cracker in your pocket
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Message-ID: <51ADF789.70906@samba.org>
Date:	Tue, 04 Jun 2013 16:19:53 +0200
From:	"Stefan (metze) Metzmacher" <metze@...ba.org>
To:	Jeff Layton <jlayton@...hat.com>
CC:	viro@...iv.linux.org.uk, matthew@....cx, bfields@...ldses.org,
	linux-cifs@...r.kernel.org, linux-nfs@...r.kernel.org,
	cluster-devel@...hat.com, sage@...tank.com,
	samba-technical@...ts.samba.org, Trond.Myklebust@...app.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-afs@...ts.infradead.org,
	dhowells@...hat.com, smfrench@...il.com,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, ceph-devel@...r.kernel.org,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, swhiteho@...hat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 11/11] locks: give the blocked_hash its own spinlock

Hi Jeff,

> There's no reason we have to protect the blocked_hash and file_lock_list
> with the same spinlock. With the tests I have, breaking it in two gives
> a barely measurable performance benefit, but it seems reasonable to make
> this locking as granular as possible.

as file_lock_{list,lock} is only used for debugging (/proc/locks) after this
change, I guess it would be possible to use RCU instead of a spinlock.

@others: this was the related discussion on IRC
(http://irclog.samba.org/) about this:

16:02 < metze> jlayton: do you have time to discuss your file_lock_lock
changes?
16:02 < jlayton> metze: sure, what's up?
16:03 < jlayton> metze: note that it won't help vl's thundering herd
problems...
16:03 < metze> is it correct that after your last patch file_lock_lock
is only used for /proc/locks?
16:03 < jlayton> well, it's only used to protect the list that is used
for /proc/locks
16:04 < jlayton> it still gets taken whenever a lock is acquired or
released in order to manipulate that list
16:04 < metze> would it be a good idea to use rcu instead of a spin lock?
16:04 < jlayton> I tried using RCU, but it turned out to slow everything
down
16:04 < jlayton> this is not a read-mostly workload unfortunately
16:04 < jlayton> so doing it with mutual exclusion turns out to be faster
16:04 < metze> ok
16:05 < jlayton> I might play around with it again sometime, but I don't
think it really helps. What we need to ensure is
                 that we optimize the code that manipulates that list,
and RCU list manipulations have larger overhead
16:06 < jlayton> metze: that's a good question though so if you want to
ask it on the list, please do
16:06 < jlayton> others will probably be wondering the same thing
16:08 < metze> maybe it's worth a comment in commit message and the code
16:08 < metze> btw, why don't you remove the ' /* Protects the
file_lock_list and the blocked_hash */' comment?

metze


Download attachment "signature.asc" of type "application/pgp-signature" (262 bytes)

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ