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Date:	Wed, 05 Jun 2013 16:13:34 +0900
From:	Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk.kim@...sung.com>
To:	Haicheng Li <haicheng.li@...ux.intel.com>
Cc:	Namjae Jeon <linkinjeon@...il.com>,
	Huajun Li <huajun.li@...el.com>, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
	huajun.li.lee@...il.com, namjae.jeon@...sung.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-f2fs-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/5] Enable f2fs support inline data

Hi Haicheng,

2013-06-04 (화), 14:01 +0800, Haicheng Li:
> Hi Jaegeuk & Namjae,
> 
> Sure, we'll address your comments. And this version is RFC, just wanna to
> make sure this feature is meaningful for f2fs project, and there is no obvious
> mistake, e.g. missing some critical path.

IMO, it is worth to design and implement the inline feature though, I'd
like to review the total design before looking at trivial mistakes.
Since if the initial design is changed frequently, we need to review
again and again.

So, we need to decide the overall inline design.
Currently we have to consider three data structures at a same time for
the on-disk *inline* inode block structure, which are data, dentry, and
xattr as well.

IMO, we can give three inode flags: F2FS_INLINE_DATA, F2FS_INLINE_DENT,
and F2FS_INLINE_XATTR.

< on-disk inode block >
 - metadata
 - if F2FS_INLINE_XATTR is set,
  : use fixed 2*255 bytes to *cache* two xattrs for simplicity
 `- if F2FS_INLINE_DATA is set,
   : use the remained space varied by F2FS_INLINE_XATTR.
 `- if F2FS_INLINE_DENT is set,
   : use variable number of dentries determined by F2FS_INLINE_XATTR.
 `- Otherwise, use as pointers

And then, we need to define how to deal with their combinations.

Operational conditions
----------------------
 - use inline xattr or not, by checking other inline flags and inline
data size.
 - calculate inline data size and its offset according to the use of
inline xattrs.
 - the places of inline operaions wrt the lock consistency and coverage
 - Power-off-recovery routine should care about the on-disk inode
structure.
 - unset F2FS_INLINE_DATA if i_size = 0
 - unset F2FS_INLINE_XATTR if xattr entries = 0
 - unset F2FS_INLINE_DENT if dentries = 0

 - what else?

Once we design the whole thing, we can make general functions to deal
with them gracefully.

> And if you team has some special opensource test suites used in your daily
> f2fs test cycle, pls. kindly share the info with us, then we can make sure our
> patchset can pass these cases before we send out next version.

1. xfstests for functionality
2. fsstress for deadlock/consistency check
3. power-off with fsstress

Thanks,

> BTW, test the kernel source tree or kernel build is a good suggestion. thanks.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 04, 2013 at 01:23:57PM +0900, Namjae Jeon wrote:
> > Hi. Huajun.
> > 
> > I agree jaegeuk's opinion.
> > Additionally, It is better that you describe the effect in change-log
> > when this feature is added to f2fs.
> > e.g.
> >     1. how much space is saved when storing kernel-tree(small files) ?
> >     2. small files creation performance test.
> >     3. file look-up performance test.
> >     4. other performance tools 's result.
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > 2013/6/4 Jaegeuk Kim <jaegeuk.kim@...sung.com>:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > This feature is one of my todo items. ;)
> > > Thank you for the contribution.
> > >
> > > Before reviewing the below code intensively, we need to check the
> > > following issues.
> > >
> > > - deadlock conditions
> > > - FS consistency
> > > - recovery routine
> > >
> > > Could you check one more time?
> > > Thanks again,
> > >
> > > 2013-06-03 (월), 18:04 +0800, Huajun Li:
> > >> f2fs inode is so large, small files can be stored directly in the inode,
> > >> rather than just storing a single block address and storing the data elsewhere.
> > >>
> > >> This RFC patch set is just to enable f2fs support inline data: files less than
> > >> about 3.6K can be stored directly in inode block.
> > >>
> > >> TODO: make small dirs inline too.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Haicheng Li (3):
> > >>   f2fs: Add helper functions and flag to support inline data
> > >>   f2fs: Add interface for inline data support
> > >>   f2fs: add tracepoints to debug inline data operations
> > >>
> > >> Huajun Li (2):
> > >>   f2fs: Handle inline data read and write
> > >>   f2fs: Key functions to handle inline data
> > >>
> > >>  fs/f2fs/Kconfig             |   10 +++
> > >>  fs/f2fs/Makefile            |    1 +
> > >>  fs/f2fs/data.c              |   78 +++++++++++++++++++++-
> > >>  fs/f2fs/f2fs.h              |   70 +++++++++++++++++++
> > >>  fs/f2fs/file.c              |    9 ++-
> > >>  fs/f2fs/inline.c            |  156 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> > >>  fs/f2fs/inode.c             |    8 +++
> > >>  include/linux/f2fs_fs.h     |    5 ++
> > >>  include/trace/events/f2fs.h |   69 +++++++++++++++++++
> > >>  9 files changed, 402 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)
> > >>  create mode 100644 fs/f2fs/inline.c
> > >>
> > >
> > > --
> > > Jaegeuk Kim
> > > Samsung
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Jaegeuk Kim
Samsung

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