linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] dma-mapping: Add BUG_ON for uninitialized dma

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Date:	Fri, 14 Jun 2013 09:14:43 -0700
From:	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>
To:	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>
Cc:	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@...sung.com>,
	Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
	Michal Simek <michal.simek@...inx.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Michal Simek <monstr@...str.eu>,
	Linux-Arch <linux-arch@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] dma-mapping: Add BUG_ON for uninitialized dma_ops

On Fri, 2013-06-14 at 16:36 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> On Thursday 13 June 2013, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Wed, 2013-06-12 at 17:06 +0200, Arnd Bergmann wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 11 June 2013, James Bottomley wrote:
> > > > Really, no, it's not a good idea at all.  It invites tons of patches
> > > > littering the code with BUG_ONs where we might possibly get a NULL
> > > > dereference.  All it does is add extra instructions to a code path for
> > > > no actual benefit.
> > > > 
> > > > If you can answer the question: what more information does the BUG_ON
> > > > give you than the NULL deref Oops would not? then it might be
> > > > reasonable.
> > > 
> > > The question is if a user can trigger the NULL dereference intentionally,
> > > in which case they might get the kernel to jump into a  user-provided
> > > buffer.
> > 
> > Can you elaborate on how they could do this?  If you're thinking they
> > could alter the pointer and trigger the jump, then yes, but a BUG_ON
> > won't prevent that because the altered pointer won't be NULL.
> 
> The attack that has been demonstrated a couple of times uses an anomymous
> mmap to virtual address 0. You fill that page with pointers to a
> function in your program. If there is a NULL pointer to some operations
> structure and kernel code calls an operation without checking the
> ops pointer first, it gets read from the NULL page and the kernel
> jumps into user space.

This is the MMAP_PAGE_ZERO exploit.  The original exploit relied on a
leaky personality capability clearing mask and was fixed in 2.6.31 by

commit f9fabcb58a6d26d6efde842d1703ac7cfa9427b6
Author: Julien Tinnes <jt@....org>
Date:   Fri Jun 26 20:27:40 2009 +0200

    personality: fix PER_CLEAR_ON_SETID

So it's not really relevant to 3.x kernels, is it?

James


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