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Message-ID: <1374112865.19894.493.camel@pasglop>
Date:	Thu, 18 Jul 2013 12:01:05 +1000
From:	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>
To:	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>
Cc:	paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com,
	ksummit-2013-discuss@...ts.linuxfoundation.org,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Darren Hart <dvhart@...ux.intel.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	stable <stable@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [Ksummit-2013-discuss] [ATTEND] How to act on LKML (was: [
 00/19] 3.10.1-stable review)

On Wed, 2013-07-17 at 10:14 +0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> > OK, I am stupid enough to take a stab at this...
> > 
> > 1.    Does the Linux kernel community's health depend on the occasional
> >       rant?  [My guess is that we simply have no way of knowing.
> >       That said, I would be interested in hearing specific examples
> >       of open-source communities that are as doing as well as is the
> >       Linux community and that live within stricter social mores.
> >       Cue arguments about exactly what "doing well" means...]

My little personal opinion (that nobody probably cares about :-) is that
the occasional Linus rant is a good thing. It keeps people like me in
check :-)

More seriously, the rant when I screw up is generally deserved, and the
"idea" of the possible rant (I prefer not using threat) is actually a
strong motivator to get things right.

Ie. It's a *very good* barrier against maintainers sliding into
sloppyness. Really, it works. At least with me.

It's easy to take things a bit too much for granted, especially when you
maintain your own little corner of the world.

Cheers,
Ben.


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