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Date:	Mon, 22 Jul 2013 13:40:47 +0100
From:	Al Viro <viro@...IV.linux.org.uk>
To:	Ramkumar Ramachandra <artagnon@...il.com>
Cc:	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard@....at>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] um: change defconfig to stop spawning xterm

On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 03:15:14PM +0530, Ramkumar Ramachandra wrote:
> Ramkumar Ramachandra wrote:
> > [1]: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2013-July/012152.html
> 
> ... and the patches were rejected.  Lennart says that UML providing
> /dev/tty* is wrong, and that UML should call them /dev/hvc* (or
> something).  Can we do something about the situation?  Can we remove
> /dev/tty*, and provide /dev/hvc*?  Will we be breaking existing users?

Yes, you would be breaking existing users.  Starting with anybody with static
/dev.  Or a debian userland, for that matter.  Any systemd-free setup,
actually.

Changing device number assignments is not to be done lightly, whether
they should've been set that way back then or not.

As for Lennart's opinion...  *shrug*  He's free to do whatever he wants
in systemd.  It does not translate into having any kind of control over
the kernel.
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