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Message-ID: <CA+5PVA6=jbzzjHJcE=CE6Eu+YtOCU+VN8ttraxL_pzQauRrSXA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 6 Sep 2013 12:12:48 -0400
From:	Josh Boyer <jwboyer@...oraproject.org>
To:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
Cc:	Dave Jones <davej@...hat.com>, Kyle McMartin <kyle@...radead.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ftrace 'failed to modify' bug when loading reiserfs.ko

On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:46:13 -0400
> Josh Boyer <jwboyer@...oraproject.org> wrote:
>
>
>> > Fedora should really look into defaulting to syslinux.
>>
>> Doesn't support all the usecases we have, and it's not multi-arch.
>> Grub2 has warts, but it's all around more flexible.
>
> We should be working on making syslinux work for all cases then.

Is there something stopping you? :)  More specifically, I don't think
syslinux will ever support e.g. powerpc or ARM (Aarch64) so it doesn't
seem like a general purpose solution.  I could be wrong.

> Grub2 has more than warts, it's a total disaster. I have not found a
> single user that likes grub2 (outside of the grub2 developers
> themselves).
>
> The "oneshot" booting is totally broken, I could never get it to work
> consistently, thus I had to abandon it for ktest. Grub2 may be
> flexible, but it is overly complicated. It's horrible to do anything
> but the "default" settings.

We have essentially one person working on bootloaders and that person
has to support them in RHEL too.  I'm sure they'd appreciate help.

josh
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