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Message-ID: <20130906124429.2376b80c@gandalf.local.home>
Date:	Fri, 6 Sep 2013 12:44:29 -0400
From:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
To:	Josh Boyer <jwboyer@...oraproject.org>
Cc:	Dave Jones <davej@...hat.com>, Kyle McMartin <kyle@...radead.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	John 'Warthog9' Hawley <warthog9@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: ftrace 'failed to modify' bug when loading reiserfs.ko

On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 12:12:48 -0400
Josh Boyer <jwboyer@...oraproject.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 12:07 PM, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org> wrote:
> > On Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:46:13 -0400
> > Josh Boyer <jwboyer@...oraproject.org> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> > Fedora should really look into defaulting to syslinux.
> >>
> >> Doesn't support all the usecases we have, and it's not multi-arch.
> >> Grub2 has warts, but it's all around more flexible.
> >
> > We should be working on making syslinux work for all cases then.
> 
> Is there something stopping you? :)

Yes, it's called a day job that takes up most my time ;-)

I'd love to work more on it. I just don't have the time to do so.

> 
> > Grub2 has more than warts, it's a total disaster. I have not found a
> > single user that likes grub2 (outside of the grub2 developers
> > themselves).
> >
> > The "oneshot" booting is totally broken, I could never get it to work
> > consistently, thus I had to abandon it for ktest. Grub2 may be
> > flexible, but it is overly complicated. It's horrible to do anything
> > but the "default" settings.
> 
> We have essentially one person working on bootloaders and that person
> has to support them in RHEL too.  I'm sure they'd appreciate help.

I'd love to. But there's a bunch of other things I need to do first
before I ever get a chance to work on that.

I wonder how much time John Hawley has?

-- Steve
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