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Message-ID: <52446D40.9040504@hurleysoftware.com>
Date:	Thu, 26 Sep 2013 13:22:08 -0400
From:	Peter Hurley <peter@...leysoftware.com>
To:	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>
CC:	Lin Ming <minggr@...il.com>, Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@...el.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, lkp@...org,
	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: increased vmap_area_lock contentions on "n_tty: Move buffers
 into n_tty_data"

On 09/26/2013 11:32 AM, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 07:52:23AM -0400, Peter Hurley wrote:
>> On 09/25/2013 11:20 PM, Andi Kleen wrote:
>>> Lin Ming <minggr@...il.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>> Would you like below patch?
>>>
>>> The loop body keeps rather complex state. It could easily
>>> get confused by parallel RCU changes.
>>>
>>> So if the list changes in parallel you may suddenly
>>> report very bogus values, as the va_start - prev_end
>>> computation may be bogus.
>>>
>>> Perhaps it's ok (may report bogus gaps), but it seems a bit risky.
>>
>> I don't understand how the computed gap would be bogus; there
>> _was_ a list state in which that particular gap existed. The fact
>
> It could change any time as you don't have an atomic view
> of vm_end / vm_start. It is valid to change the fields
> with the lock held.

va_start and va_end are constant for the lifetime of their vmap_area
(if it's accessible by traversing the vmap_area_list), so it is
not possible for an rcu-based list traversal to see different
values of these individual fields than the spin-locked version.

In addition, for the rcu-based traversal to have arrived at any given
vmap_area requires that the previous vmap_area was its adjacent
lower range at the instant in time when the list cursor was advanced;
again, this is no different than if the spin-locked version had
happened to begin at that same instant.

Regards,
Peter Hurley



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