linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 17/17] RCU'd vfsmounts

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Date:	Thu, 3 Oct 2013 21:41:42 +0100
From:	Al Viro <viro@...IV.linux.org.uk>
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 17/17] RCU'd vfsmounts

On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 01:19:16PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> Hmm. The CPU2 mntput can only happen under RCU readlock, right? After
> the RCU grace period _and_ if the umount is going ahead, nothing
> should have a mnt pointer, right?

umount -l doesn't care.

> So I'm wondering if you couldn't just have a synchronize_rcu() in that
> umount path, after clearing mnt_ns. At that point you _know_ you're
> the only one that should have access to the mnt.

We have it there.  See namespace_unlock().  And you are right about the
locking rules for umount_tree(), except that caller is responsible
for dropping those.  With (potentially final) mntput() happening after
both (well, as part of namespace_unlock(), done after synchronize_rcu()).

The problem is this:
A = 1, B = 1
CPU1:
A = 0
<full barrier>
synchronize_rcu()
read B

CPU2:
rcu_read_lock()
B = 0
read A

Are we guaranteed that we won't get both of them seeing ones, in situation
when that rcu_read_lock() comes too late to be noticed by synchronize_rcu()?
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