linux-kernel - Re: perf events ring buffer memory barrier on powerpc

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date:	Wed, 30 Oct 2013 13:48:00 +0100
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	James Hogan <james.hogan@...tec.com>
Cc:	Vince Weaver <vince@...ter.net>,
	Victor Kaplansky <VICTORK@...ibm.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@...ba.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux PPC dev <linuxppc-dev@...abs.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...ymtl.ca>,
	Michael Ellerman <michael@...erman.id.au>,
	Michael Neuling <mikey@...ling.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-metag <linux-metag@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: perf events ring buffer memory barrier on powerpc

On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 11:48:44AM +0000, James Hogan wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> On 30/10/13 10:42, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > Subject: perf, tool: Add required memory barriers
> > 
> > To match patch bf378d341e48 ("perf: Fix perf ring buffer memory
> > ordering") change userspace to also adhere to the ordering outlined.
> > 
> > Most barrier implementations were gleaned from
> > arch/*/include/asm/barrier.h and with the exception of metag I'm fairly
> > sure they're correct.
> 
> Yeh...
> 
> Short answer:
> For Meta you're probably best off assuming
> CONFIG_METAG_SMP_WRITE_REORDERING=n and just using compiler barriers.

Thanks, fixed it that way.

> Long answer:
> The issue with write reordering between Meta's hardware threads beyond
> the cache is only with a particular SoC, and SMP is not used in
> production on it.
> It is possible to make the LINSYSEVENT_WR_COMBINE_FLUSH register
> writable to userspace (it's in a non-mappable region already) but even
> then the write to that register needs odd placement to be effective
> (before the shmem write rather than after - which isn't a place any
> existing barriers are guaranteed to be placed). I'm fairly confident we
> get away with it in the kernel, and userland normally just uses linked
> load/store instructions for atomicity which works fine.

Urgh.. sounds like way 'fun' for you ;-)
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/