linux-kernel - Re: CLONE_PARENT after setns(CLONE

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Message-ID: <20131106225337.GB11611@ac100>
Date:	Wed, 6 Nov 2013 16:53:37 -0600
From:	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@...ntu.com>
To:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>
Cc:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	Brad Spengler <spender@...ecurity.net>,
	Christian Seiler <christian@...kd.de>,
	lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andy Whitcroft <apw@...onical.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	Lxc development list <lxc-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: CLONE_PARENT after setns(CLONE_NEWPID)

Quoting Oleg Nesterov (oleg@...hat.com):
> Hi Serge,
> 
> On 11/06, Serge Hallyn wrote:
> >
> > Hi Oleg,
> >
> > commit 40a0d32d1eaffe6aac7324ca92604b6b3977eb0e :
> > "fork: unify and tighten up CLONE_NEWUSER/CLONE_NEWPID checks"
> > breaks lxc-attach in 3.12.  That code forks a child which does
> > setns() and then does a clone(CLONE_PARENT).  That way the
> > grandchild can be in the right namespaces (which the child was
> > not) and be a child of the original task, which is the monitor.
> 
> Thanks...
> 
> Yes, this is what 40a0d32d1ea explicitly tries to disallow.
> 
> > Is there a real danger in allowing CLONE_PARENT
> > when current->nsproxy->pidns_for_children is not our pidns,
> > or was this done out of an "over-abundance of caution"?
> 
> I am not sure... This all was based on the long discussion, and
> it was decided that the CLONE_PARENT check should be consistent
> wrt CLONE_NEWPID and pidns_for_children != task_active_pid_ns().

So apart from peers seeing the new task as having pid 0, and
sigchild going to the grandparent, are there any other side
effects?  Is ptrace an issue?  (I took a quick look but it
doesn't seem like it)

If not, then I very much think we should continue to allow this.

-serge
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