Date:	Sat, 9 Nov 2013 06:59:00 +0800
From:	Zhi Yong Wu <zwu.kernel@...il.com>
To:	Ben Myers <bpm@....com>
Cc:	Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@...hat.com>, elder@...nel.org,
	Mark Tinguely <tinguely@....com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	xfstests <xfs@....sgi.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] update xfs maintainers

On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 6:03 AM, Ben Myers <bpm@....com> wrote:
> Hey Ric,
>
> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 03:50:21PM -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote:
>> On 11/08/2013 03:46 PM, Ben Myers wrote:
>> >Hey Christoph,
>> >
>> >On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 11:34:24AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> >>On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 12:03:37PM -0600, Ben Myers wrote:
>> >>>Mark is replacing Alex as my backup because Alex is really busy at
>> >>>Linaro and asked to be taken off awhile ago.  The holiday season is
>> >>>coming up and I fully intend to go off my meds, turn in to Fonzy the
>> >>>bear, and eat my hat.  I need someone to watch the shop while I'm off
>> >>>exploring on Mars.  I trust Mark to do that because he is totally
>> >>>awesome.
>> >>
>> >>Doing this as an unilateral decisions is not something that will win you
>> >>a fan base.
>> >It's posted for review.
>> >
>> >>While we never had anything reassembling a democracy in Linux Kernel
>> >>development making decisions without even contacting the major
>> >>contributor is wrong, twice so if the maintainer is a relatively minor
>> >>contributor to start with.
>> >>
>> >>Just because it recent came up elsewhere I'd like to recite the
>> >>definition from Trond here again:
>> >>
>> >>    http://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/ksummit-2012-discuss/2012-June/000066.html
>> >>
>> >>By many of the creative roles enlisted there it's clear that Dave should
>> >>be the maintainer.  He's been the main contributor and chief architect
>> >>for XFS for many year, while the maintainers came and went at the mercy
>> >>of SGI.  This is not meant to bad mouth either of you as I think you're
>> >>doing a reasonably good job compared to other maintainers, but at the
>> >>same time the direction is set by other people that have a much longer
>> >>involvement with the project, and having them officially in control
>> >>would help us forward a lot.  It would also avoid having to spend
>> >>considerable resources to train every new generation of SGI maintainer.
>> >>
>> >>Coming to and end I would like to maintain Dave Chinner as the primary
>> >>XFS maintainer for all the work he has done as biggest contributor and
>> >>architect of XFS since longer than I can remember, and I would love to
>> >>retain Ben Myers as a co-maintainer for all the good work he has done
>> >>maintaining and reviewing patches since November 2011.
>> >I think we're doing a decent job too.  So thanks for that much at least.  ;)
>> >>I would also like to use this post as a public venue to condemn the
>> >>unilateral smokey backroom decisions about XFS maintainership that SGI is
>> >>trying to enforce on the community.
>> >That really didn't happen Christoph.  It's not in my tree or in a pull request.
>> >
>> >Linus, let me know what you want to do.  I do think we're doing a fair job over
>> >here, and (geez) I'm just trying to add Mark as my backup since Alex is too
>> >busy.  I know the RH people want more control, and that's understandable, but
>> >they really don't need to replace me to get their code in.  Ouch.
>> >
>> >Thanks,
>> >     Ben
>>
>> Christoph is not a Red Hat person.
>>
>> Jeff is from Oracle.
>>
>> This is not a Red Hat vs SGI thing,
>
> Sorry if my read on that was wrong.
>
>> Dave simply has earned the right
>> to take on the formal leadership role of maintainer.
>
> Then we're gonna need some Reviewed-bys.  ;)
>
> From: Ben Myers <bpm@....com>
>
> xfs: update maintainers
>
> Add Dave as maintainer of XFS.
>
> Signed-off-by: Ben Myers <bpm@....com>
> ---
>  MAINTAINERS |    2 +-
>  1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>
> Index: b/MAINTAINERS
> ===================================================================
> --- a/MAINTAINERS       2013-11-08 15:20:18.935186245 -0600
> +++ b/MAINTAINERS       2013-11-08 15:22:50.685245977 -0600
> @@ -9387,8 +9387,8 @@ F:        drivers/xen/*swiotlb*
>
>  XFS FILESYSTEM
>  P:     Silicon Graphics Inc
> +M:     Dave Chinner <dchinner@...morbit.com>
Use his personal private mail account? I guess that you should ask for
his opinion at first, or it is more appropriate that he submit this
patch by himself.

>  M:     Ben Myers <bpm@....com>
> -M:     Alex Elder <elder@...nel.org>
>  M:     xfs@....sgi.com
>  L:     xfs@....sgi.com
>  W:     http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs
>
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> xfs@....sgi.com
> http://oss.sgi.com/mailman/listinfo/xfs



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Zhi Yong Wu
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