Date:	Fri, 08 Nov 2013 18:32:33 -0500
From:	Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@...hat.com>
To:	Ben Myers <bpm@....com>
CC:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>, xfs@....sgi.com,
	elder@...nel.org, Mark Tinguely <tinguely@....com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] update xfs maintainers

On 11/08/2013 05:17 PM, Ben Myers wrote:
> Hey Ric,
>
> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 05:07:45PM -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote:
>> On 11/08/2013 05:03 PM, Ben Myers wrote:
>>> Hey Ric,
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 03:50:21PM -0500, Ric Wheeler wrote:
>>>> On 11/08/2013 03:46 PM, Ben Myers wrote:
>>>>> Hey Christoph,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 11:34:24AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 08, 2013 at 12:03:37PM -0600, Ben Myers wrote:
>>>>>>> Mark is replacing Alex as my backup because Alex is really busy at
>>>>>>> Linaro and asked to be taken off awhile ago.  The holiday season is
>>>>>>> coming up and I fully intend to go off my meds, turn in to Fonzy the
>>>>>>> bear, and eat my hat.  I need someone to watch the shop while I'm off
>>>>>>> exploring on Mars.  I trust Mark to do that because he is totally
>>>>>>> awesome.
>>>>>> Doing this as an unilateral decisions is not something that will win you
>>>>>> a fan base.
>>>>> It's posted for review.
>>>>>
>>>>>> While we never had anything reassembling a democracy in Linux Kernel
>>>>>> development making decisions without even contacting the major
>>>>>> contributor is wrong, twice so if the maintainer is a relatively minor
>>>>>> contributor to start with.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just because it recent came up elsewhere I'd like to recite the
>>>>>> definition from Trond here again:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 	http://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/ksummit-2012-discuss/2012-June/000066.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> By many of the creative roles enlisted there it's clear that Dave should
>>>>>> be the maintainer.  He's been the main contributor and chief architect
>>>>>> for XFS for many year, while the maintainers came and went at the mercy
>>>>>> of SGI.  This is not meant to bad mouth either of you as I think you're
>>>>>> doing a reasonably good job compared to other maintainers, but at the
>>>>>> same time the direction is set by other people that have a much longer
>>>>>> involvement with the project, and having them officially in control
>>>>>> would help us forward a lot.  It would also avoid having to spend
>>>>>> considerable resources to train every new generation of SGI maintainer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Coming to and end I would like to maintain Dave Chinner as the primary
>>>>>> XFS maintainer for all the work he has done as biggest contributor and
>>>>>> architect of XFS since longer than I can remember, and I would love to
>>>>>> retain Ben Myers as a co-maintainer for all the good work he has done
>>>>>> maintaining and reviewing patches since November 2011.
>>>>> I think we're doing a decent job too.  So thanks for that much at least.  ;)
>>>>>> I would also like to use this post as a public venue to condemn the
>>>>>> unilateral smokey backroom decisions about XFS maintainership that SGI is
>>>>>> trying to enforce on the community.
>>>>> That really didn't happen Christoph.  It's not in my tree or in a pull request.
>>>>>
>>>>> Linus, let me know what you want to do.  I do think we're doing a fair job over
>>>>> here, and (geez) I'm just trying to add Mark as my backup since Alex is too
>>>>> busy.  I know the RH people want more control, and that's understandable, but
>>>>> they really don't need to replace me to get their code in.  Ouch.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 	Ben
>>>> Christoph is not a Red Hat person.
>>>>
>>>> Jeff is from Oracle.
>>>>
>>>> This is not a Red Hat vs SGI thing,
>>> Sorry if my read on that was wrong.
>> I do appreciate the work and effort you and the SGI team put in but
>> think that this will be a good way to keep the community happier and
>> even more productive going forward.
>>
>>>> Dave simply has earned the right
>>>> to take on the formal leadership role of maintainer.
>>> Then we're gonna need some Reviewed-bys.  ;)
>> Those should come from the developers, thanks!
> I actually do need your Reviewed-by.   We'll try and get this one in 3.13.  ;)
>
> Thanks,
> 	Ben

Happy to do that - I do think that Dave mostly posts from his redhat.com 
account, but he can comment once he gets back online.

Reviewed-by: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@...hat.com>
>
>>> From: Ben Myers <bpm@....com>
>>>
>>> xfs: update maintainers
>>>
>>> Add Dave as maintainer of XFS.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Ben Myers <bpm@....com>
>>> ---
>>>   MAINTAINERS |    2 +-
>>>   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>>
>>> Index: b/MAINTAINERS
>>> ===================================================================
>>> --- a/MAINTAINERS	2013-11-08 15:20:18.935186245 -0600
>>> +++ b/MAINTAINERS	2013-11-08 15:22:50.685245977 -0600
>>> @@ -9387,8 +9387,8 @@ F:	drivers/xen/*swiotlb*
>>>   XFS FILESYSTEM
>>>   P:	Silicon Graphics Inc
>>> +M:	Dave Chinner <dchinner@...morbit.com>
>>>   M:	Ben Myers <bpm@....com>
>>> -M:	Alex Elder <elder@...nel.org>
>>>   M:	xfs@....sgi.com
>>>   L:	xfs@....sgi.com
>>>   W:	http://oss.sgi.com/projects/xfs

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