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Date:	Mon, 11 Nov 2013 22:54:15 +0100
From:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:	Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
Cc:	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] printk: Defer printing to irq work when we printed
 too much

Hi!

> > > A CPU can be caught in console_unlock() for a long time (tens of seconds
> > > are reported by our customers) when other CPUs are using printk heavily
> > > and serial console makes printing slow. Despite serial console drivers
> > > are calling touch_nmi_watchdog() this triggers softlockup warnings
> > > because interrupts are disabled for the whole time console_unlock() runs
> > > (e.g. vprintk() calls console_unlock() with interrupts disabled). Thus
> > > IPIs cannot be processed and other CPUs get stuck spinning in calls like
> > > smp_call_function_many(). Also RCU eventually starts reporting lockups.
> > >
> > > In my artifical testing I can also easily trigger a situation when disk
> > > disappears from the system apparently because interrupt from it wasn't
> > > served for too long. This is why just silencing watchdogs isn't a
> > > reliable solution to the problem and we simply have to avoid spending
> > > too long in console_unlock() with interrupts disabled.
> > >
> > > The solution this patch works toward is to postpone printing to a later
> > > moment / different CPU when we already printed over X characters in
> > > current console_unlock() invocation. This is a crude heuristic but
> > > measuring time we spent printing doesn't seem to be really viable - we
> > > cannot rely on high resolution time being available and with interrupts
> > > disabled jiffies are not updated. User can tune the value X via
> > > printk.offload_chars kernel parameter.
> > >
> > > Reviewed-by: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
> > > Signed-off-by: Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
> > 
> > When a message takes tens of seconds to be printed, it usually means
> > we are in trouble somehow :)
> > I wonder what printk source can trigger such a high volume.
>   Machines with tens of processors and thousands of scsi devices. When
> device discovery happens on boot, all processors are busily reporting new
> scsi devices and one poor looser is bound to do the printing for ever and
> ever until the machine dies...

Dunno. In these cases, would it make sense to:

1) reduce amount of text printed

2) just print [XXX characters lost] on overruns?

									Pavel
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