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Message-ID: <52967E27.3070906@zytor.com>
Date:	Wed, 27 Nov 2013 15:20:07 -0800
From:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
To:	Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>
CC:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add a text_poke syscall v2

On 11/27/2013 03:10 PM, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 02:40:04PM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> Also don't forget we need the IPIs, too...
> 
> Yeah, I was simply looking at whether we could get away with executing
> an empty syscall, i.e. save us the CPUID and rely only on the IPIs and
> IRET.
> 
> But we don't IPI ourselves in smp_call_function; actually we remove
> ourselves from the cpumask because of deadlocking scenarios. So on
> this_cpu we only execute the function with IRQs disabled and CLI/STI is
> not serializing.
> 

Although as Linus correctly pointed out, on the modifying CPU itself we
only need a branch.  For the standalone system call that doesn't work,
because you can't assume that the modifying CPU and the syscall CPU are
the same CPU.

> I wonder if we could use MFENCE instead of CPUID, though, and save us
> the clobbering of e*x, maybe even save us some cycles since MFENCE
> should be faster than hundred-ish cycles of microcoded CPUID.
> 

No.  MFENCE doesn't serialize the front end.

	-hpa



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