Message-ID: <52CC6951.9030307@ovekarlsen.com>
Date:	Tue, 07 Jan 2014 21:53:37 +0100
From:	Ove Karlsen <mail@...karlsen.com>
To:	Richard Dunn <richard.dunn.144@...il.com>,
	Liam Lindholm <liam.oskar.lindholm@...il.com>
CC:	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Richard Stallman: Why “GNU’S Not Linux” and Why We Should “Say LiGNUx” / Stopping abusive behaviour.

On 1/7/2014 9:52 PM, Richard Dunn wrote:
> In case you missed it, Phoronix covered your original email.
>
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU1MTI

Phoronix is not a serious newsplace.

I did think about the problem some more.

Maybe the whole Microkernel debate is an ego-issue too, really of 
control of information.

What would an additional JSR do.

And then I decide to read "operating systems: design and implementation" 
and what do I find:

https://www.google.no/search?q=operating+systems+design+and+implementation&rlz=1C1SAVU_enNO552NO555&espv=210&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=mWjMUoawK870yAOD14DoDQ&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1280&bih=962#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=3Xxz9iSmxL5PkM%3A%3BwJyiNjvjxISczM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fi.walmartimages.com%252Fi%252Fp%252F09%252F78%252F01%252F31%252F42%252F0978013142938_500X500.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.walmart.com%252Fip%252FOperating-Systems-Design-and-Implementation%252F4323094%3B500%3B500

The book has a picture of a mushroom!

> On 1/7/14, Liam Lindholm <liam.oskar.lindholm@...il.com> wrote:
>> Mr. Karlsen,
>>
>> I find your response to my initial email quite interesting, but do not
>> quite understand it. My mind is very sluggish here in Sweden where it
>> is very, very cold. Sluggish like a cluster of 386s running Linux on a
>> kitchen table in someone's backwoods shack.
>>
>> In case you didn't see it, here is the presentation Mr. Stallman gave
>> about the Free Software Foundation's "Say LiGNUx" campaign:
>> http://imgur.com/a/beY7E
>>
>> Mr. Stallman clearly needs a break from promoting an increasingly
>> irrelevant software platform. In my first email, I suggested that we
>> ban him from LKML or asking the Linux Foundation to issue a press
>> release distancing themselves from RMS, GNU, and the Free
>> Software Foundation.
>>
>> So far, to the best of my knowledge, none of those suggestions have
>> been acted upon.
>>
>> If you do not mind, Mr. Karlsen, please elaborate. Do you agree with
>> me that calling Linux as LiGNUx is destructive and is without gains?
>> Or do you agree with Richard M. Stallman and think we should call
>> Linux as LiGNUx? How do you think about this, Mr. Karlsen?
>>
>> Happy New Year.
>>
>> Liam Oskar Lindholm,
>> Linux Kernel Hacker
>>
>> On 12/23/13, Ove Karlsen <mail@...karlsen.com> wrote:
>>> In school, many national idols, art, and "national romantic" writings
>>> are read. These are irrational variants of ancestor worship, that turns
>>> ignorant people to brats. A flag nothing else than a totempole. A
>>> monarchy nothing else than the development of old fertiliycults. Where
>>> Brutus and Bimbo no doubt are central.
>>>
>>> No doubt even Stallman was bothered by those in his youth. And maybe
>>> that is what is bothering many. Why anyone should go to school, to be
>>> harassed for many years, I do not understand. I am well into my thirties
>>> and realizing how much of a pain school really was, although I was not
>>> the one most bothered, and I have seen many processing that, on youtube,
>>> and other places.
>>>
>>> Behaviour on the internet is a problem, and it seems similar, and that
>>> is really what reminded me of it.
>>>
>>> Stallman however made his own idol instead. The "GNU" is a similar
>>> thing, a phallic idol of himself, as all idols are. And everyone
>>> complains about the pseudoreligious brats in linux-circles.
>>>
>>> It is ofcourse not real religion, but idolatry, and with made up idols.
>>> And that it is idolatry, is a important distinction to make.
>>>
>>> This is really at the base of facism, and seen for instance, when people
>>> censor criticism like this, in favour of some idol. Be that Stallmans
>>> Gnu, or gayactivism, 1950s gear worshippers, or people who think
>>> 1024x768 is the ultimate resolution. Or many odd things. Which is common
>>> online.
>>>
>>> Hippies also really are idolaters, sunworship, really the same as
>>> swastika-worship. This scene from "Tommy" says a lot about what an
>>> idolater is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IVwkz-BQGc
>>>
>>> Everyone is born with a monotheist nature though.
>>>
>>> On LKML, I have also seen arguments that resemble monotheism. For
>>> instance lately, Linus said he didn´t want a corporate mindset. He has
>>> also talked about natural developments, and also Gabriel Newell, inspite
>>> of clear "psychedelic" art in some of his games, talk about letting
>>> naturality take place. Hopefully that means reiterating out that
>>> element, as it really is about the same again. And "just for fun", is
>>> close to "for the praises of God" is it not.
>>>
>>> Our nature, is "muslim". Which means "in submission to God".
>>> In Daoism, one talks about surrender and alignment.
>>> In Buddhism and Daoism, both talk about quietness of the mind.
>>> In Islam one talks about peace generally. And defines idolatry as
>>> unnatural, polytheism, and association with God, and The Quran states,
>>> God created you with the most upright nature.
>>>
>>> And one superordinate concept, one God, can also be logically defended
>>> by Aristotles prime mover, and philosophical principles like The
>>> Finetuning Argument. However many do not even know this, and think
>>> monotheism is illogical, yet the school of logic, is said to have been
>>> established by Aristotle. The same logic ofcourse, really the insight of
>>> any true prophet. Programmers often like logic, and should know this.
>>>
>>> And Atheism do not have that, but often an irrational randomness, that
>>> is given power to create, or claimed to be anything but white-noise. A
>>> series of random events are white noise,  equal probability for any
>>> frequency. And Einsten and pseudoreligious scientific pantheism cannot
>>> be rationally defended, as with pantheism infinity is irrationally
>>> assigned to objects, truth is false, good is bad, god is satan, and many
>>> of these defend idolaterous images. Dawkins discussions sometimes seen
>>> on youtube, with beasthead idols, outside the building. Similar to the
>>> sphinx-idols of Egypt ofcourse. Yet again phallic. And many who makes
>>> claims about madness themselves, such as psychiatrists follow Freud
>>> whose focus on libido, is just another rephrasing of phallic idolatry,
>>> and the facism these uphold is known. Atheism also again irrational
>>> idolatry.
>>>
>>> Removing irrational "randomness" from reality, leaves no coincidences,
>>> nothing "just happens", unless God wills. And one gets a necessary
>>> creator, that logically must be almighty, and sustainer of the heavens
>>> and the earth. One who obviously guides and deludes whomever he wills.
>>> And talks about mercy towards the believers.
>>>
>>> And Darwin makes irrational claims about species. No species that mutate
>>> in any such degree, would ofcourse stop to mutate, and all species would
>>> have left an enormous amount of mutations that did not make it. And even
>>> just two compatible mutations, from another species, is absurd theory.
>>> And mutation is not any object of occult power.
>>>
>>> And ofcourse Stallman claims to have some power of giving freedom to
>>> hackers, by his GPL licence, are fradulent.
>>>
>>> Any of these, whether you view them more or less influental is just
>>> doing the same.
>>>
>>> Free fantasy and conjuring of unreal things. If you are looking for the
>>> logical, and really scientific view, that is Artistotle still. And
>>> stallman does ofcourse not know what freedom is. And even making an idol
>>> of himself. Maybe he was of those who used LSD, it used to be popular,
>>> and unfortunately still is too popular. Turning people to stooges.
>>>
>>> Freedom, and natural behaviour comes with natural religion, that
>>> protects human values. (non-sectarian) and godconsciousness. God is
>>> almighty and just, Lord of The Heavens And The Earth.
>>>
>>> And Open-source is now well-understood, a better term, and is good
>>> development, and much more graceful, than his slogans.
>>>
>>> If one is to fix the problem of ill-behaved participants anywhere, the
>>> conflicts lies in monotheism vs idolatry (polytheism), as always.
>>>
>>> This can all be solved. Stallman does not have any occult powers, to
>>> allow him only to write licences, and indeed if the licence was kernel
>>> code, it would have been patched out, for reasons of obscurity, a long
>>> time ago.
>>>
>>> I actually made a very simple licence for my own DSP-code, which atleast
>>> works for me. It takes my understanding of "Open source", and words it
>>> as simple as possible.
>>>
>>> "This program, plugin or function is licenced under
>>> The Beneficient Open-Source Licence.
>>>
>>> That means that its source is released
>>> and shall stay available openly,
>>> to benefit humankind, in the path of God.
>>> And that shall apply to developments,
>>> modifications, derivations, and branches.
>>>
>>> The licence may not be changed, but modifications
>>> between program, plugin and function may be done,
>>> and used alongside software of other licences.
>>>
>>> Peace Be With You."
>>>
>>> That should be well understood in the beneficial arrangements of
>>> monotheism.
>>>
>>> I also wrote it a little bit like this, to hint at library buliding of
>>> re-used components.
>>>
>>> Ultimately it is about information-management, and good communication. I
>>> wrote on my blog about decentralized blog/magazine style keyword
>>> network, as a maybe usenet inspired modern iteration of many online
>>> technologies.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peace Be With You
>>> Ove Karlsen
>>> http://www.ovekarlsen.com
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