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Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2014 23:34:48 -0800
From: Jason Low <jason.low2@...com>
To: Davidlohr Bueso <davidlohr@...com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC 3/3] mutex: When there is no owner, stop spinning after
too many tries
On Tue, 2014-01-14 at 17:06 -0800, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-01-14 at 16:33 -0800, Jason Low wrote:
> > When running workloads that have high contention in mutexes on an 8 socket
> > machine, spinners would often spin for a long time with no lock owner.
> >
> > One of the potential reasons for this is because a thread can be preempted
> > after clearing lock->owner but before releasing the lock
>
> What happens if you invert the order here? So mutex_clear_owner() is
> called after the actual unlocking (__mutex_fastpath_unlock).
Reversing the mutex_fastpath_unlock and mutex_clear_owner resulted in a
20+% performance improvement to Ingo's test-mutex application at 160
threads on an 8 socket box.
I have tried this method before, but what I was initially concerned
about with clearing the owner after unlocking was that the following
scenario may occur.
thread 1 releases the lock
thread 2 acquires the lock (in the fastpath)
thread 2 sets the owner
thread 1 clears owner
In this situation, lock owner is NULL but thread 2 has the lock.
> > or preempted after
> > acquiring the mutex but before setting lock->owner.
>
> That would be the case _only_ for the fastpath. For the slowpath
> (including optimistic spinning) preemption is already disabled at that
> point.
Right, for just the fastpath_lock.
> > In those cases, the
> > spinner cannot check if owner is not on_cpu because lock->owner is NULL.
> >
> > A solution that would address the preemption part of this problem would
> > be to disable preemption between acquiring/releasing the mutex and
> > setting/clearing the lock->owner. However, that will require adding overhead
> > to the mutex fastpath.
>
> It's not uncommon to disable preemption in hotpaths, the overhead should
> be quite smaller, actually.
>
> >
> > The solution used in this patch is to limit the # of times thread can spin on
> > lock->count when !owner.
> >
> > The threshold used in this patch for each spinner was 128, which appeared to
> > be a generous value, but any suggestions on another method to determine
> > the threshold are welcomed.
>
> Hmm generous compared to what? Could you elaborate further on how you
> reached this value? These kind of magic numbers have produced
> significant debate in the past.
I've observed that when running workloads which don't exhibit this
behavior (long spins with no owner), threads rarely take more than 100
extra spins. So I went with 128 based on those number.
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