Date:	Sun, 09 Feb 2014 20:17:30 -0800
From:	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@...radead.org>
To:	Gene Heskett <gheskett@...v.com>,
	Ken Moffat <zarniwhoop@...world.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: make oldfonfig broken.

On 02/09/2014 08:14 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 09 February 2014, Randy Dunlap wrote:
>> On 02/09/2014 07:46 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>> On Sunday 09 February 2014, Randy Dunlap wrote:
>>>> On 02/09/2014 07:07 PM, Ken Moffat wrote:
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 09, 2014 at 06:05:41PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
>>>>>> On Sunday 09 February 2014, Paul Bolle wrote:
>>>>>>> Feel free to open a new thread, with the relevant details, and
>>>>>>> involve the relevant people and lists. I have no idea what you're
>>>>>>> going on about and could not care less (in the context of this
>>>>>>> thread).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul Bolle
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Been tried, got zero response.  Frankly, posting just to lkml,
>>>>>> hoping the revalent people see it, is beginning to act like posting
>>>>>> to a black hole.
>>>>>>
>>>>>  I saw one response to you, from Randy Dunlap, asking for more
>>>>>
>>>>> information : https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/2/8/153
>>>>
>>>> wow, I don't know how I saw this message (thanks, Ken),
>>>> but replying to this patch was NOT the right thing to do, Gene.
>>>>
>>>> Just reply to my request and I'll be glad to look into it.
>>>>
>>>>>  After your posts a few days ago, I'm tempted to suggest you check
>>>>>
>>>>> your spam filters, and also any mail files your virus scanner might
>>>>> have quarantined.  But it is also possible that you just haven't
>>>>> received it - email is like that.
>>>>>
>>>>> ط¤آ¸en
>>>
>>> Spam and viri filters watched carefully.  I also use mailfilter, and
>>> watch its logs full time for FP's.
>>
>> Still -- this ATSC problem should not be part of a reply to the Remove
>> DEPRECATED patch.
> 
> True.  But I got some attention.
> 
>>> And I didn't reply because the question seemed way too broad, almost as
>>> if
>>
>> what question seemed to broad?
> 
> You wanted to see "a" config, but I wanted to show the diffs. Also 
> yesterday I hadn't gone thru what I have yet to see where it falls apart.
>>
>>> my lament wasn't read.  That and the mail server doesn't like big
>>
>> what mail server?  yours?  wdtv?  vger.kernel.org certainly has no
>> problem with them.
> 
> I have gotten bounced from lkml because a screen shot pix of a failed boot 
> was too big.  Perhaps 18 months or so.  It was big, from a 10 megapixel 
> camera.
> 
>>> attachments. So rather than reply to the list, I'll excise some of the
>>> addresses that bounce from a reply_all or don't like me, and send the
>>> .config from a 3.019 build which seems ok, but by the time that config
>>> is run thru a make oldconfig at 3.8.2, most all the media, ATSC and
>>> DVB stuff is gone.  So I'll attach that one too.  The later file grew
>>> 22kb, but wholesale parts of the first one are missing from the 2nd.
>>
>> Gene, I want to make sure where you are saying the problem is.
>> Is it going directly from 3.019 to 3.8.2, with no intervening kernel
>> versions?
> 
> No, one intermediate step in this case.
> 
> I started with 3.0.19, which was fine, took that one to 3.2.40, and that 
> one to 3.8.2 because I don't have anything between those here.  Not exactly 
> a step by step.

and when you go from one kernel version to the next, do you use

$ make oldconfig
and answer all of its questions, or do you use

$ yes '' | make oldconfig

or some other variant?  (I guess in your super build script.)

>> I don't know what kernel version 3.019 is.  Do you mean 3.0.19?
> 
> Yes, Joanne Dow would call that a typu for sure.
> 
> Thanks Randy.
> 
> Cheers, Gene
> 

-- 
~Randy
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