linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH v2 tip 0/7] 64-bit BPF insn set and tracing filters

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Message-ID: <52FD4AC0.7090502@redhat.com>
Date:	Thu, 13 Feb 2014 23:44:16 +0100
From:	Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@...hat.com>
To:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>
CC:	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...mgrid.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@...achi.com>,
	Tom Zanussi <tom.zanussi@...ux.intel.com>,
	Jovi Zhangwei <jovi.zhangwei@...il.com>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...radead.org>,
	Pekka Enberg <penberg@....fi>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, netdev@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 tip 0/7] 64-bit BPF insn set and tracing filters

On 02/13/2014 11:32 PM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On 02/06/2014 05:20 PM, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>>
>> I believe that old BPF outlived itself and BPF64 should
>> replace it in all current use cases plus a lot more.
>> It just cannot happen at once.
>> BPF64 can come in. bpf32->bpf64 converter functioning.
>> JIT from bpf64->aarch64 and may be sparc64 needs to be in place.
>> Then old bpf can fade away.
>
> I don't think that is doable any time soon.  Right now pretty much all
> mobile devices, for example, are 32 bits and they really want to use
> syscall filtering for security.  Performance matters greatly there.

Well, if that would be the case, then seccomp would have had JIT support
long ago. ;-) Right now BPF filters with seccomp are not JIT compiled
for _any_ architecture.

> As such, 32-bit JIT support is going to be very important for a long
> time to come.

True, I think that pretty much depends if we can manage to find a way
to cleanly integrate it into net/core/filter.c while still supporting
the old instructions as I've mentioned earlier.

> 	-hpa
>
>
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