Message-ID: <5341E09F.6050402@netscape.net>
Date:	Mon, 07 Apr 2014 01:17:51 +0200
From:	Manuel Krause <manuelkrause@...scape.net>
To:	Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-pm@...r.kernel.org,
	rui.zhang@...el.com, Jean Delvare <jdelvare@...e.de>,
	lm-sensors@...sensors.org
Subject: Re: 3.13.?: Strange / dangerous fan policy...

On 2014-04-06 04:43, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On 04/05/2014 07:37 PM, Manuel Krause wrote:
>> On 2014-04-01 01:47, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>> On 03/31/2014 04:37 PM, Manuel Krause wrote:
>>>> On 2014-03-20 21:21, Manuel Krause wrote:
>>>>> On 2014-03-11 22:59, Manuel Krause wrote:
>>>>>> On 2014-03-10 02:49, Manuel Krause wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2014-03-09 18:58, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 09, 2014 01:10:25 AM Manuel Krause wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2014-03-08 16:59, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 03/08/2014 03:08 AM, Jean Delvare wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Mar 2014 14:52:30 -0800, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 11:04:29PM +0100, Manuel Krause
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> [SNIP]
>>>>>
>>>>> Long time no reply from you... Have I overseen a unwritten
>>>>> convention? Or were my charts that unusable for your
>>>>> analysis/work?
>>>>>
>>>>> Two days ago, I tried the 3.14.0-rc7-vanilla. And the problem
>>>>> persists. "Strange / dangerous fan policy..."
>>>>>
>>>>> Since kernel 3.13.6 I've managed to 'fix' the potential
>>>>> overheating problem by manually issuing a:
>>>>> "echo 1 > /sys/class/thermal/cooling_device3/cur_state" *)
>>>>> _before_ obviously critical temperatures occur. Remind: This
>>>>> particular setting may only work for my system! ...and keeps
>>>>> working for 3.14-rc.
>>>>>
>>>>> In the following I'd like to present you a modified output
>>>>> of my
>>>>> /sys/class/thermal, that I've written a script for (for my
>>>>> system), that shows the results in the way of
>>>>> linux/Documentation/thermal/sysfs-api.txt, point 3:
>>>>> {I've uploded the files to pastebin, to not swamp you and the
>>>>> lists with so many lines of logs.}
>>>>>
>>>>> For the last good kernel -- 3.12.14 -- in-use:
>>>>>   http://pastebin.com/HL1PNcda
>>>>> For my first bad kernel revision 3.13 -- at critical temp:
>>>>>   http://pastebin.com/98hgf1a9
>>>>> For the last bad kernel -- 3.14.0-rc7 -- at critical temp:
>>>>>   http://pastebin.com/MuTwTnjD
>>>>> For the last bad kernel -- 3.14.0-rc7 -- after issuing the
>>>>>   *) command:
>>>>>   http://pastebin.com/2peda54z
>>>>>
>>>>> Please, have a look at them! And maybe, give me hints on how I
>>>>> can help you to further debug this issue, as my manual method
>>>>> works but it's annoying.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, PLEASE CC: ME, as I'm not on the lists. Or lead this
>>>>> Email-thread to someone in charge.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you for your work && best regards,
>>>>> Manuel Krause
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is still BUG 71711
>>>> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71711
>>>>
>>>> 3.12.15 works very well
>>>> 3.13.7 fails
>>>> 3.14.0-rc8 fails
>>>>
>>>
>>> Best you can do would really be to bisect the problem.
>>> Unfortunately only you (or someone else with an affected system)
>>> can do that. Once the culprit is known it would be much easier
>>> to get it fixed.
>>>
>>> To answer your earlier question: I don't think you did anything
>>> wrong.
>>> I guess everyone else is just as clueless as I am (if not,
>>> speak up
>>> and help ;-).
>>>
>>> Guenter
>>>
>>
>> I've now bisected two times. From two different kernel origins,
>> just to be sure, as I'm new to this stupid-and-lengthy method,
>> and, to be sure, I haven't given a false positive inbetween due
>> to boredom.
>>
>
> Not really. Keep in mint that you were able to track down the bad
> commit
> among more than 10,000 commits in a reasonably short period of time.
>
>> In the end it says each time:
>> # git bisect bad | tee -a /var/log/bisect.log
>> cc8ef52707341e67a12067d6ead991d56ea017ca is the first bad commit
>> commit cc8ef52707341e67a12067d6ead991d56ea017ca
>> Author: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@...el.com>
>> Date:   Wed Sep 25 20:39:45 2013 +0800
>>
>>      ACPI / AC: convert ACPI ac driver to platform bus
>>
>>      Signed-off-by: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@...el.com>
>>      Signed-off-by: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>
>>
> Off to the two of you...
>
> Guenter
>
>> :040000 040000 5a0d397cfcbf53c03390f2805b83754cb7837d84
>> 4a2af1454f65d67f1d1a507c08e3b9ef3ffe57e7 M      drivers
>>
>>
>> Please help me, on how I can help debug this more, and please
>> also read the newest from
>> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71711
>>
>> Manuel Krause
>>
>>
>>
>

Sorry, that I've forgotton to add the following last night: After 
the first bisection round, I was so glad about a result that 
time, that I reverted this mentioned patch from the 3.13.8 
kernel, but this didn't fix it. Must be something that came 
later: But you all understand more of what you've coded.

Best regards, Manuel Krause

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