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Message-ID: <5340BF6E.5040400@roeck-us.net>
Date:	Sat, 05 Apr 2014 19:43:58 -0700
From:	Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>
To:	Manuel Krause <manuelkrause@...scape.net>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-pm@...r.kernel.org,
	rui.zhang@...el.com, Jean Delvare <jdelvare@...e.de>,
	lm-sensors@...sensors.org
Subject: Re: 3.13.?: Strange / dangerous fan policy...

On 04/05/2014 07:37 PM, Manuel Krause wrote:
> On 2014-04-01 01:47, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>> On 03/31/2014 04:37 PM, Manuel Krause wrote:
>>> On 2014-03-20 21:21, Manuel Krause wrote:
>>>> On 2014-03-11 22:59, Manuel Krause wrote:
>>>>> On 2014-03-10 02:49, Manuel Krause wrote:
>>>>>> On 2014-03-09 18:58, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sunday, March 09, 2014 01:10:25 AM Manuel Krause wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2014-03-08 16:59, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 03/08/2014 03:08 AM, Jean Delvare wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 7 Mar 2014 14:52:30 -0800, Guenter Roeck wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 11:04:29PM +0100, Manuel Krause
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>> [SNIP]
>>>>
>>>> Long time no reply from you... Have I overseen a unwritten
>>>> convention? Or were my charts that unusable for your
>>>> analysis/work?
>>>>
>>>> Two days ago, I tried the 3.14.0-rc7-vanilla. And the problem
>>>> persists. "Strange / dangerous fan policy..."
>>>>
>>>> Since kernel 3.13.6 I've managed to 'fix' the potential
>>>> overheating problem by manually issuing a:
>>>> "echo 1 > /sys/class/thermal/cooling_device3/cur_state" *)
>>>> _before_ obviously critical temperatures occur. Remind: This
>>>> particular setting may only work for my system! ...and keeps
>>>> working for 3.14-rc.
>>>>
>>>> In the following I'd like to present you a modified output of my
>>>> /sys/class/thermal, that I've written a script for (for my
>>>> system), that shows the results in the way of
>>>> linux/Documentation/thermal/sysfs-api.txt, point 3:
>>>> {I've uploded the files to pastebin, to not swamp you and the
>>>> lists with so many lines of logs.}
>>>>
>>>> For the last good kernel -- 3.12.14 -- in-use:
>>>>   http://pastebin.com/HL1PNcda
>>>> For my first bad kernel revision 3.13 -- at critical temp:
>>>>   http://pastebin.com/98hgf1a9
>>>> For the last bad kernel -- 3.14.0-rc7 -- at critical temp:
>>>>   http://pastebin.com/MuTwTnjD
>>>> For the last bad kernel -- 3.14.0-rc7 -- after issuing the
>>>>   *) command:
>>>>   http://pastebin.com/2peda54z
>>>>
>>>> Please, have a look at them! And maybe, give me hints on how I
>>>> can help you to further debug this issue, as my manual method
>>>> works but it's annoying.
>>>>
>>>> And, PLEASE CC: ME, as I'm not on the lists. Or lead this
>>>> Email-thread to someone in charge.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your work && best regards,
>>>> Manuel Krause
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is still BUG 71711
>>> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71711
>>>
>>> 3.12.15 works very well
>>> 3.13.7 fails
>>> 3.14.0-rc8 fails
>>>
>>
>> Best you can do would really be to bisect the problem.
>> Unfortunately only you (or someone else with an affected system)
>> can do that. Once the culprit is known it would be much easier
>> to get it fixed.
>>
>> To answer your earlier question: I don't think you did anything
>> wrong.
>> I guess everyone else is just as clueless as I am (if not, speak up
>> and help ;-).
>>
>> Guenter
>>
>
> I've now bisected two times. From two different kernel origins, just to be sure, as I'm new to this stupid-and-lengthy method, and, to be sure, I haven't given a false positive inbetween due to boredom.
>

Not really. Keep in mint that you were able to track down the bad commit
among more than 10,000 commits in a reasonably short period of time.

> In the end it says each time:
> # git bisect bad | tee -a /var/log/bisect.log
> cc8ef52707341e67a12067d6ead991d56ea017ca is the first bad commit
> commit cc8ef52707341e67a12067d6ead991d56ea017ca
> Author: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@...el.com>
> Date:   Wed Sep 25 20:39:45 2013 +0800
>
>      ACPI / AC: convert ACPI ac driver to platform bus
>
>      Signed-off-by: Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@...el.com>
>      Signed-off-by: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>
>
Off to the two of you...

Guenter

> :040000 040000 5a0d397cfcbf53c03390f2805b83754cb7837d84 4a2af1454f65d67f1d1a507c08e3b9ef3ffe57e7 M      drivers
>
>
> Please help me, on how I can help debug this more, and please also read the newest from
> https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71711
>
> Manuel Krause
>
>
>

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