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Date:	Mon, 14 Apr 2014 15:31:53 -0400
From:	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com>
To:	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@...achi.com>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Satoru MORIYA <satoru.moriya.br@...achi.com>,
	Yoshihiro YUNOMAE <yoshihiro.yunomae.ez@...achi.com>,
	Takenori Nagano <t-nagano@...jp.nec.com>,
	Eric Biederman <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	Motohiro Kosaki <Motohiro.Kosaki@...fujitsu.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kernel/panic: Add "late_kdump" option for kdump in
 unstable condition

On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 01:51:58PM +0900, Masami Hiramatsu wrote:
> Add a "late_kdump" option to run kdump after running panic
> notifiers and dump kmsg. This can help rare situations which
> kdump drops in failure because of unstable crashed kernel
> or hardware failure (memory corruption on critical data/code),
> or the 2nd kernel is broken by the 1st kernel (it's a broken
> behavior, but who can guarantee that the "crashed" kernel
> works correctly?).
> 
> Usage: add "late_kdump" to kernel boot option. That's all.
> 
> Note that this actually increases risks of the failure of
> kdump. This option should be set only if you worry about
> the rare case of kdump failure rather than increasing the
> chance of success.
> 

Masami,

So what's the alternative to kdump which is more reliable? IOW, what
action you are planning to take through kmsg_dump() or through
panic_notifiers?

I have seen that many a times developers have tried to make the case 
to save kernel buffers to NVRAM. Does it work well? Has it been proven
to be more reliable than kdump?

Thanks
Vivek

> Signed-off-by: Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@...achi.com>
> Cc: Eric Biederman <ebiederm@...ssion.com>
> Cc: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com>
> Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
> Cc: Yoshihiro YUNOMAE <yoshihiro.yunomae.ez@...achi.com>
> Cc: Satoru MORIYA <satoru.moriya.br@...achi.com>
> Cc: Motohiro Kosaki <Motohiro.Kosaki@...fujitsu.com>
> Cc: Takenori Nagano <t-nagano@...jp.nec.com>
> ---
>  Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt |    7 +++++++
>  kernel/panic.c                      |   24 ++++++++++++++++++++++--
>  2 files changed, 29 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
> index 03e50b4..1ba58da 100644
> --- a/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
> @@ -2339,6 +2339,13 @@ bytes respectively. Such letter suffixes can also be entirely omitted.
>  			timeout < 0: reboot immediately
>  			Format: <timeout>
>  
> +	late_kdump	Run kdump after running panic-notifiers and dumping
> +			kmsg. This only for the users who doubt kdump always
> +			succeeds in any situation.
> +			Note that this also increases risks of kdump failure,
> +			because some panic notifiers can make the crashed
> +			kernel more unstable.
> +
>  	parkbd.port=	[HW] Parallel port number the keyboard adapter is
>  			connected to, default is 0.
>  			Format: <parport#>
> diff --git a/kernel/panic.c b/kernel/panic.c
> index d02fa9f..bba42b5 100644
> --- a/kernel/panic.c
> +++ b/kernel/panic.c
> @@ -32,6 +32,7 @@ static unsigned long tainted_mask;
>  static int pause_on_oops;
>  static int pause_on_oops_flag;
>  static DEFINE_SPINLOCK(pause_on_oops_lock);
> +static bool late_kdump;
>  
>  int panic_timeout = CONFIG_PANIC_TIMEOUT;
>  EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL(panic_timeout);
> @@ -112,9 +113,14 @@ void panic(const char *fmt, ...)
>  	/*
>  	 * If we have crashed and we have a crash kernel loaded let it handle
>  	 * everything else.
> -	 * Do we want to call this before we try to display a message?
> +	 * If we want to call this after we try to display a message, pass
> +	 * the "late_kdump" option to the kernel.
>  	 */
> -	crash_kexec(NULL);
> +	if (!late_kdump)
> +		crash_kexec(NULL);
> +	else
> +		pr_emerg("Warning: late_kdump option is set. Please DO NOT "
> +			"report bugs about kdump failure with this option.\n");
>  
>  	/*
>  	 * Note smp_send_stop is the usual smp shutdown function, which
> @@ -131,6 +137,13 @@ void panic(const char *fmt, ...)
>  
>  	kmsg_dump(KMSG_DUMP_PANIC);
>  
> +	/*
> +	 * If you doubt kdump always works perfectly in any situation,
> +	 * "late_kdump" offers you to try kdump after running panic_notifier
> +	 * and dumping kmsg.
> +	 */
> +	crash_kexec(NULL);
> +
>  	bust_spinlocks(0);
>  
>  	if (!panic_blink)
> @@ -472,6 +485,13 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(__stack_chk_fail);
>  core_param(panic, panic_timeout, int, 0644);
>  core_param(pause_on_oops, pause_on_oops, int, 0644);
>  
> +static int __init setup_late_kdump(char *s)
> +{
> +	late_kdump = true;
> +	return 0;
> +}
> +early_param("late_kdump", setup_late_kdump);
> +
>  static int __init oops_setup(char *s)
>  {
>  	if (!s)
> 
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