Date:	Tue, 06 May 2014 17:05:13 +0200
From:	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>
To:	Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>, David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>
CC:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@....com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@...gle.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@...ck.org
Subject: Re: [patch v2 4/4] mm, thp: do not perform sync compaction on pagefault

On 05/06/2014 10:55 AM, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 01:29:33PM -0700, David Rientjes wrote:
>> On Fri, 2 May 2014, Mel Gorman wrote:
>>
>>>> The page locks I'm referring to is the lock_page() in __unmap_and_move()
>>>> that gets called for sync compaction after the migrate_pages() iteration
>>>> makes a few passes and unsuccessfully grabs it.  This becomes a forced
>>>> migration since __unmap_and_move() returns -EAGAIN when the trylock fails.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Can that be fixed then instead of disabling it entirely?
>>>
>>
>> We could return -EAGAIN when the trylock_page() fails for
>> MIGRATE_SYNC_LIGHT.  It would become a forced migration but we ignore that
>> currently for MIGRATE_ASYNC, and I could extend it to be ignored for
>> MIGRATE_SYNC_LIGHT as well.
>>
>>>> We have perf profiles from one workload in particular that shows
>>>> contention on i_mmap_mutex (anon isn't interesting since the vast majority
>>>> of memory on this workload [120GB on a 128GB machine] is has a gup pin and
>>>> doesn't get isolated because of 119d6d59dcc0 ("mm, compaction: avoid
>>>> isolating pinned pages")) between cpus all doing memory compaction trying
>>>> to fault thp memory.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Abort SYNC_LIGHT compaction if the mutex is contended.
>>>
>>
>> Yeah, I have patches for that as well but we're waiting to see if they are
>> actually needed when sync compaction is disabled for thp.  If we aren't
>> actually going to disable it entirely, then I can revive those patches if
>> the contention becomes such an issue.
>>
>>>> That's one example that we've seen, but the fact remains that at times
>>>> sync compaction will iterate the entire 128GB machine and not allow an
>>>> order-9 page to be allocated and there's nothing to preempt it like the
>>>> need_resched() or lock contention checks that async compaction has.
>>>
>>> Make compact_control->sync the same enum field and check for contention
>>> on the async/sync_light case but leave it for sync if compacting via the
>>> proc interface?
>>>
>>
>> Ok, that certainly can be done, I wasn't sure you would be happy with such
>> a change.
>
> I'm not super-keen as the success rates are already very poor for allocations
> under pressure. It's something Vlastimil is working on so it may be possible
> to get some of the success rates back. It has always been the case that
> compaction should not severely impact overall performance as THP gains
> must offset compaction. While I'm not happy to reduce the success rates
> further I do not think we should leave a known performance impact on
> 128G machines wait on Vlastimil's series.
>
> Vlastimil, what do you think?

I think before giving up due to lock contention, the "give up on 
pageblock when I won't be able to free all of it anyway" should be 
considered (as I've tried to explain in the yesterday reply, and I think 
David also suggested that already?). Giving up due to lock contention 
might for example mean that it will free half of the pageblock and then 
give up, wasting the work already done.

>> I'm not sure there's so much of a difference between the new
>> compact_control->sync == MIGRATE_ASYNC and == MIGRATE_SYNC_LIGHT now,
>> though.  Would it make sense to remove MIGRATE_SYNC_LIGHT entirely from
>> the page allocator, i.e. remove sync_migration entirely, and just retry
>> with a second call to compaction before failing instead?
>
> Would it be possible if only khugepaged entered SYNC_LIGHT migration and
> kswapd and direct THP allocations used only MIGRATE_ASYNC? That would
> allow khugepaged to continue locking pages and buffers in a slow path
> while still not allowing it to issue IO or wait on writeback. It would
> also give a chance for Vlastimil's series to shake out a bit without him
> having to reintroduce SYNC_LIGHT as part of that series.

I agree that khugepaged should be more persistent. Unlike page faults 
and direct compactions, nothing is stalling on it right?
Also removing sync_migration completely would mean that nobody would try 
to compact non-MOVABLE pageblocks. I think this might increase 
fragmentation, as this is a mechanism that prevents non-MOVABLE 
pageblocks being filled by MOVABLE pages by stealing, and then 
non-MOVABLE allocations having to steal back from other MOVABLE 
pageblocks...

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