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Message-Id: <20140514102549.EEEF9C4153D@trevor.secretlab.ca>
Date:	Wed, 14 May 2014 11:25:49 +0100
From:	Grant Likely <grant.likely@...aro.org>
To:	Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@...idianresearch.com>,
	Sylwester Nawrocki <s.nawrocki@...sung.com>
Cc:	robh+dt@...nel.org, devicetree@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] of: Add of_device_destroy_children() function

On Thu, 8 May 2014 14:33:39 -0600, Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@...idianresearch.com> wrote:
> On Thu, May 08, 2014 at 06:37:49PM +0200, Sylwester Nawrocki wrote:
> > This patch adds a helper function to unregister devices which
> > were created by an of_platform_populate() call. The pattern
> > used here can already be found in multiple drivers. This helper
> > can now be used instead of repeating similar code in drivers.
> 
> I have a driver that does this as well, and what I found is that the
> remove must be in reverse order from the create or things explode, and
> that assumes the DT is topologically sorted according to dependency
> (so no deferred probe).

That is the tip of a much larger problem that we don't have any good way
to solve. There is no dependency tracking beyond the nature Linux driver
model tree. For example, the removal of a GPIO driver has no way to
tell users that it is going away, and so there is no way to force a
driver remove when it happens.

If we created a managed api for requesting resource (ie.
devm_request_gpio()), then it would be possible for the gpio core to
force a remove event on any driver that doesn't have the ability to
gracefully handle a remove.

The exact same problem exists for IRQs, clocks, regulators, or pretty
much any cross-tree dependency.  :-(

> AFAIK, there is no analog to deferred probe for removal, and
> attempting to remove, say, a GPIO driver while an I2C bit bang is using
> it just fails.

Indeed, it is a completely different operation.

g.
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