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Date:	Fri, 27 Jun 2014 13:08:20 -0700
From:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
To:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>
Cc:	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@...il.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...mgrid.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Daniel Borkmann <dborkman@...hat.com>,
	Will Drewry <wad@...omium.org>,
	Julien Tinnes <jln@...omium.org>,
	David Drysdale <drysdale@...gle.com>,
	Linux API <linux-api@...r.kernel.org>,
	"x86@...nel.org" <x86@...nel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>, linux-mips@...ux-mips.org,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-security-module <linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 5/9] seccomp: split mode set routines

On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com> wrote:
> On 06/27, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:27 PM, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com> wrote:
>> > On 06/27, Kees Cook wrote:
>> >>
>> >> It looks like SMP ARM issues dsb for rmb, which seems a bit expensive.
>> >> http://infocenter.arm.com/help/index.jsp?topic=/com.arm.doc.dui0204g/CIHJFGFE.htm
>> >>
>> >> ...
>> >>
>> >> I really want to avoid adding anything to the secure_computing()
>> >> execution path. :(
>> >
>> > I must have missed something but I do not understand your concerns.
>> >
>> > __secure_computing() is not trivial, and we are going to execute the
>> > filters. Do you really think rmb() can add the noticeable difference?
>> >
>> > Not to mention that we can only get here if we take the slow syscall
>> > enter path due to TIF_SECCOMP...
>> >
>>
>> On my box, with my fancy multi-phase seccomp patches, the total
>> seccomp overhead for a very short filter is about 13ns.  Adding a full
>> barrier would add several ns, I think.
>
> I am just curious, does this 13ns overhead include the penalty from the
> slow syscall enter path triggered by TIF_SECCOMP ?

Yes, which is more or less the whole point of that patch series.  I
rewrote part of the TIF_SECCOMP-but-no-tracing case in assembly :)

I'm playing with rewriting it in C, but it's looking like it'll be a
bit more far-reaching than I was hoping.

--Andy
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