linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 2/2] ARM: LPAE: reduce damage caused by idmap to virtual memory layout

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date:	Mon, 28 Jul 2014 22:57:00 +0400
From:	Konstantin Khlebnikov <koct9i@...il.com>
To:	Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>
Cc:	Konstantin Khlebnikov <k.khlebnikov@...sung.com>,
	Vitaly Andrianov <vitalya@...com>,
	Russell King <linux@....linux.org.uk>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
	Cyril Chemparathy <cyril@...com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] ARM: LPAE: reduce damage caused by idmap to virtual
 memory layout

On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:41 PM, Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 07:25:14PM +0100, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 10:14 PM, Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 04:36:35PM +0100, Konstantin Khlebnikov wrote:
>> >> idmap layout combines both phisical and virtual addresses.
>> >> Everything works fine if ram physically lays below PAGE_OFFSET.
>> >> Otherwise idmap starts punching huge holes in virtual memory layout.
>> >> It maps ram by 2MiB sections, but when it allocates new pmd page it
>> >> cuts 1GiB at once.
>> >>
>> >> This patch makes a copy of all affected pmds from init_mm.
>> >> Only few (usually one) 2MiB sections will be lost.
>> >> This is not eliminates problem but makes it 512 times less likely.
>> >
>> > I'm struggling to understand your commit message, but making a problem `512
>> > times less likely' does sound like a bit of a hack to me. Can't we fix this
>> > properly instead?
>>
>> Yep, my comment sucks.
>>
>> Usually idmap looks like this:
>>
>> |0x00000000 -- <chunk of physical memory in identical mapping > --- |
>> TASK_SIZE -- <kernel space vm layoyt> --- 0xFFFFFFFF |
>>
>> But when that physical memory chunk starts from 0xE8000000 or even
>> 0xF2000000 evenything becomes very complicated.
>
> Why? As long as we don't clobber the kernel text (which would require
> PHYS_OFFSET to be at a really weird alignment and very close to
> PAGE_OFFSET), then you should be alright. Sure, you'll lose things like your
> stack and the vmalloc area etc, but you're running in the idmap, so don't
> use those things.

Yep, we have piece of hardware with really weird aligned PHYS_OFFSET,
mostly all ram is above 4gb and we was lucky enough to get into the trouble.

It seems keystone has all memory above 4gb but small piece is mapped below
especially for booting. I suppose it's below PAGE_OFFSET so Cyril
hadn't seen that problem.

Also I seen comment somewhere in the code which tells that idrmap pgd is
always below 4gb which isn't quite true. Moreover, I had some experiments with
mapping ram to random places in qemu and seen that kernel cannot boot if
PHYS_OFFSET isn't alligned to 128mb which is strange.
So, it seems there is plenty bugs anound.

>
> soft_restart is an example of code that deals with these issues. Which code
> is causing you problems?

That was booting of secondary cpus, all of them.

>
> Will
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/