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Message-ID: <20140730065034.GB8024@amd.pavel.ucw.cz>
Date:	Wed, 30 Jul 2014 08:50:34 +0200
From:	Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>
Cc:	Linux PM list <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] PM / sleep: Rename symbols, functions and
 variables related to sleep

On Wed 2014-07-30 01:41:25, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Monday, July 28, 2014 01:13:56 AM Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > From: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>
> > 
> > The names of several symbols, data types, functions and variables
> > related to system sleep states are confusing and don't reflect the
> > real behavior of those states correctly.
> > 
> > First of all, there generally are two sleep states that require
> > platform support and one sleep state that is platform-independent.
> > The first two of them are currently known as MEM and STANDBY,
> > although these names really only match what the states do on full
> > hardware ACPI compliant systems.  MEM in particular is supposed
> > to mean "suspend-to-RAM", but in fact it means "the deepest sleep
> > state available with platform support".  The definition of STANDBY
> > is even more arbitrary.
> > 
> > Moreover, the remaining sleep state that doesn't need platform support
> > is currently called FREEZE, which leads to double confusion with the
> > process freezer (used during transitions to all sleep states) and
> > with the freeze stage of processing devices during hibernation.
> > 
> > For these reasons, rename the PM_SUSPEND_MEM, PM_SUSPEND_STANDBY
> > and PM_SUSPEND_FREEZE symbols to PM_SUSPEND_PLATFORM_DEEP,
> > PM_SUSPEND_PLATFORM_SHALLOW and PM_SUSPEND_IDLE_SLEEP, respectively,
> > everywhere and rename data types, functions and variables related to
> > those states to match the new names of the symbols.
> > 
> > This is a semi-mechanical replacement of names and it should not lead
> > to any functional differences.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Rafael J. Wysocki <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>
> 
> OK, any comments or objections anyone?
> 
> Or should I just make it a non-RFC and apply it?

I don't really like the new names, and I'm not sure if I like
direction this is heading. At least on ACPI machines, S1 and S3 is
different -- different parts of hardware will stay powered on.

So if you want to charge your cellphone with machine suspended, you
want S1... and you don't want S1/S3 to change names. (Ok, this is not
what you are doing now, but what you plan AFAICT.)

> > For these reasons, rename the PM_SUSPEND_MEM, PM_SUSPEND_STANDBY
> > and PM_SUSPEND_FREEZE symbols to PM_SUSPEND_PLATFORM_DEEP,
> > PM_SUSPEND_PLATFORM_SHALLOW and PM_SUSPEND_IDLE_SLEEP, respectively,

I'm not sure why you want to mention "platform there", AFAICT better
names would be

PM_SUSPEND_DEEP, PM_SUSPEND_SHALLOW, PM_IDLE_SLEEP.
									Pavel
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