linux-kernel - Re: General flags to turn things off (getrandom, pid lookup, etc)

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Date:	Wed, 30 Jul 2014 15:37:58 +0100
From:	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
Cc:	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	Julien Tinnes <jln@...gle.com>,
	David Drysdale <drysdale@...gle.com>,
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	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
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	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
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	Linux API <linux-api@...r.kernel.org>,
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	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@....edu>,
	Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@....eng.br>,
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Subject: Re: General flags to turn things off (getrandom, pid lookup, etc)

> > We sort of have one. It's called capable(). Just needs extending to cover
> > anything else you care about, and probably all the numeric constants
> > replacing with textual names.
> >
> 
> Except that it's all backwards: these are things that default to *on*,
> and people might want them to turn off.  capable() is totally fscked
> if you want otherwise unprivileged users to carry capabilities around

The userspace API is, but capable() as a userspace API and capable() as
an in kernel check are only connected by history.

For the in kernel part you can either teach everyone another disjoint API
or we can have a single API in kernel for saying "is XYZ allowed".
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