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Message-ID: <d4ba973a22bd71eaff94be1f479c5334@pek-sem.com>
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 02:32:18 +0530
From: pekon@...-sem.com
To: Lee Jones <lee.jones@...aro.org>
Cc: <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
Boris BREZILLON <b.brezillon.dev@...il.com>,
<kernel@...inux.com>, <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
<linux-mtd@...ts.infradead.org>,
Ezequiel Garcia <ezequiel.garcia@...e-electrons.com>,
Brian Norris <computersforpeace@...il.com>,
<linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mtd: nand: stm_nand_bch: add new driver
Hello,
On Tuesday 05 August 2014 07:53 PM, Lee Jones wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Jul 2014, Gupta, Pekon wrote:
>>> From: Brian Norris [mailto:computersforpeace@...il.com]
>>> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:20:05AM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
[...]
>>>> +static void bch_wait_seq(struct nandi_controller *nandi)
>>>> +{
>>>> + int ret;
>>>> +
>>>> + ret = wait_for_completion_timeout(&nandi->seq_completed, HZ/2);
>>
>> Are you sure you want to use same timeout value for all operations
>> like ERASE, READ, WRITE ? because
>> (1) There is wide variance between:
>> - BLOCK_ERASE: max(tBER) = 10ms) for MT29F4G08 Micron NAND
>> - PAGE_ERASE: max(tPROG) = 600usec for same Micron part.
>>
>> (2) The value of HZ varies across kernel versions and hardware
>> platforms.
>>
>> I suggest you pass the timeout value in call to bch_wait_seq().
>> And this timeout value should be like 2x of typical value of which
>> you found
>> during ONFI parsing, or from DT
>
> How do you obtain these timings? I don't see tBER or tPROG being
> used
> anywhere in MTD.
>
These are not from NAND framework, these are terms used in data-sheet.
However, you can read all signal timing from ONFI page while probing.
But, as Brian suggested that timeout is a erroneous and rare condition
anyway, so these relaxed timeout values are acceptable. So you may
ignore my previous comment.
> [...]
>
>>>> +{
>>>> + uint8_t *b = data;
>>>> + int zeros = 0;
>>>> + int i;
>>>> +
>>>> + for (i = 0; i < page_size; i++) {
>>>> + zeros += hweight8(~*b++);
>> Are you sure you want to use hweight8 ?
>> hweight32 or something should give better performance, plz check.
>> because this piece of code (check_xx_bitflips) sometimes becomes
>> bottle neck for READ path.
>
> I'm not sure, no. If I change it, how will I know if it's still
> doing
> the correct thing or otherwise?
>
hweight/hweight16/hweight32 are all macros of same family
just operating on different data-widths, so you may continue
for now. But once the driver is merged, you might like to
re-analyze performance gain (especially on MLC NAND) when
using hweight32() instead of hweight8().
> [...]
>
>>>> + /* Load last page of block */
>>>> + offs = (loff_t)block << chip->phys_erase_shift;
>>>> + offs += mtd->erasesize - mtd->writesize;
>>>> + if (bch_read_page(nandi, offs, buf) < 0) {
>>
>> *Important*: You shouldn't call internal functions directly here..
>> Instead use chip->_read() OR mtd-read() that will:
>> - keep this code independent of ECC modes added in your driver in
>> future.
>> - implicitly handle updating mtd->ecc_stat (like ecc_failed,
>> bits_corrected).
>> - implicitly take care of address alignments checks and offset
>> calculations.
>>
>> <Same applies to other places where you have directly used
>> bch_read_page())
>
> Yourself and Brian seem to disagree on this point. Which is correct?
>
>>>> + /* Is block already considered bad? (will also catch invalid
>>>> offsets) */
>>>> + ret = mtd_block_isbad(mtd, offs);
>>>
>>> You're violating some of the layering here; the low-level driver
>>> probably shouldn't be calling the high-level mtd_*() APIs. On a
>>> similar
>>> note, I'm not 100% confident that the nand_base/nand_bbt separation
>>> is
>>> written cleanly enough for easy maintenance of your nand_base + ST
>>> BBT
>>> code in parallel. I might need a second look at that, and I think
>>> modularizing your BBT code to a separate file could help ease this
>>> a
>>> little.
>
> ... here is the converse argument.
>
I think somewhere in earlier comments, Brian also supported
to use high-level function like mtd_read(). Also, nand_bbt.c
itself uses 'mtd_read(), mtd_read_oob() and mtd_write_oob()
at many places. So I'll let Brain decide here.
But having low-level function will add redundant code for
re-checking and aligning the addresses boundaries to block
and page/sector sizes.
Brian ??
with regards, pekon
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