lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite for Android: free password hash cracker in your pocket
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:	Wed, 6 Aug 2014 08:02:25 +0900
From:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
To:	Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@...hat.com>
Cc:	X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>, Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@...glemail.com>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@...mgrid.com>,
	Will Drewry <wad@...omium.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] x86: entry_64.S: always allocate complete "struct pt_regs"

On Aug 6, 2014 12:17 AM, "Denys Vlasenko" <dvlasenk@...hat.com> wrote:
>
> On 08/05/2014 04:53 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > On Aug 5, 2014 7:36 PM, "Denys Vlasenko" <vda.linux@...glemail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 11:03 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net> wrote:
> >>>>> Next up: remove FIXUP/RESTORE_TOP_OF_STACK? :)  Maybe I'll give that a shot.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'm yet at the stage "what that stuff does anyway?" and at
> >>>> "why do we need percpu old_rsp thingy?" in particular.
> >>>
> >>> On x86_64, the syscall instruction has no effect on rsp.  That means
> >>> that the entry point starts out with no stack.  There are no free
> >>> registers whatsoever at the entry point.
> >>>
> >>> That means that the entry code needs to do swapgs, stash rsp somewhere
> >>> relative to gs, and then load the kernel's rsp.  old_rsp is the spot
> >>> used for this.
> >>>
> >>> Now the kernel does an optimization that is, I think, very much not
> >>> worth it.  The kernel doesn't bother sticking the old rsp value into
> >>> pt_regs (saving two instructions on fast path entries) and doesn't
> >>> initialize the SS, CS, RCX, and EFLAGS fields in pt_regs, saving four
> >>> more instructions.
> >>>
> >>> To make this optimization work, the whole FIXUP/RESTORE_TOP_OF_STACK
> >>> dance is needed, and there's the usersp crap in the context switch
> >>> code, and current_user_stack_pointer(), and probably even more crap
> >>> that I haven't noticed.  And I sure hope that nothing in the *compat*
> >>> syscall path touches current_user_stack_pointer(), because the compat
> >>> code doesn't seem to use old_rsp.
> >>>
> >>> I think this should all be ripped out.  The only real difficulty will
> >>> be that the sysret code needs to restore rsp itself, so the sysret
> >>> path will end up needing two more instructions.  Removing all of the
> >>> TOP_OF_STACK stuff will add ten instructions to fast path syscalls,
> >>> and I wouldn't be surprised if this adds considerably fewer than ten
> >>> cycles on any modern chip.
> >>
> >> Something like this on the fast path? -
> >>
> >>         SWAPGS_UNSAFE_STACK
> >>         movq    %rsp,PER_CPU_VAR(old_rsp)
> >>         movq    PER_CPU_VAR(kernel_stack),%rsp
> >>         ENABLE_INTERRUPTS(CLBR_NONE)
> >>         ALLOC_PTREGS_ON_STACK 8         /* +8: space for orig_ax */
> >>         SAVE_C_REGS
> >>         movq  %rax,ORIG_RAX(%rsp)
> >>         movq  %rcx,RIP(%rsp)
> >> +       movq  %r11,EFLAGS(%rsp)
> >> +       movq PER_CPU_VAR(old_rsp),%rcx
> >> +       movq %rcx,RSP(%rsp)
> >>         ...
> >> -       RESTORE_C_REGS_EXCEPT_RCX
> >> +       RESTORE_C_REGS_EXCEPT_RCX_R11
> >>         movq RIP(%rsp),%rcx
> >> +       movq    EFLAGS(%rsp), %r11
> >> -       movq    PER_CPU_VAR(old_rsp), %rsp
> >> +       movq    RSP(%rsp), %rsp
> >>       USERGS_SYSRET64
> >
> > The sysret code still needs the inverse, right?
>
> The part after "..." in my skecth is the sysret code.

Right :)

>
> > ptrace can change RSP.
>
> By writing to pt_regs->rsp, yes. And the above code
> will pick it up - we read RSP(%rsp).

Also correct -- nice :)

>
> >> Do we need to save rcx and r11 in "struct pt_regs" in their
> >> "standard" slots, though?
> >
> > ptrace probably wants it.
>
> Let's see.
> They don't contain any useful information:
> With current code,
> pt_regs->r11 is the same as pt_regs->rflags,
> pt_regs->rcx is the same as pt_regs->rip (modulo weird store of -1).
> So reading them by ptrace is... weird - just read
> pt_regs->rflags or pt_regs->rip instead!

I'm unconvinced.  This is too complicated.

>
> If ptrace is active, we'll return via iretq.
> If ptrace wrote to these pt_regs members, on return
> to userspace current code restores modified values.
> My proposed change does not change this.
>
> So, only ptrace reads of rcx and r11 will be affected.
> Hmm. Maybe we can fill them only on "tracesys:" codepath?

It's not just tracesys -- there's FORK_LIKE, the various pt_regs
stubs, and exit work, too.  Setting these values up early is faster,
anyway -- no loads are needed, only stores, and the stores will
presumably be combined with the rest of the frame setup, so no
additional memory bandwidth should be needed.

--Andy

>
> >> Then old_rsp can be nuked everywhere else,
> >> RESTORE_TOP_OF_STACK can be nuked, and
> >> FIXUP_TOP_OF_STACK can be reduced to merely:
> >>
> >>         movq $__USER_DS,SS(%rsp)
> >>         movq $__USER_CS,CS(%rsp)
> >
> > Mmm, right.  That's probably better than doing this on the fast path.
> >
> >>
> >> (BTW, why currently it does "movq $-1,RCX+\offset(%rsp)?)
> >
> > I would argue this is a bug.
>
> Agree.
>
> > (In fact, I have a patch floating around
> > to fix it.  The current code is glitchy in a visible-to-user-space
> > way.)  We should put rcx into both RIP and RCX, since the sysret path
> > will implicitly do that, and we should restore the same register
> > values in the iret and sysret paths.
>

--Andy
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ