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Message-ID: <53EA2BD4.2040903@linux.intel.com>
Date:	Tue, 12 Aug 2014 07:59:32 -0700
From:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...ux.intel.com>
To:	Amit Shah <amit.shah@...hat.com>
CC:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>,
	Virtualization List <virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	kvm list <kvm@...r.kernel.org>, jgarzik@...pay.com,
	duwe@....de, Amos Kong <akong@...hat.com>,
	ricardo.neri-calderon@...ux.intel.com, tytso@....edu,
	herbert@...dor.apana.org.au
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] virtio: rng: add derating factor for use by hwrng
 core

On 08/11/2014 10:27 PM, Amit Shah wrote:
> On (Mon) 11 Aug 2014 [15:11:03], H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>> On 08/11/2014 11:49 AM, Amit Shah wrote:
>>> The khwrngd thread is started when a hwrng device of sufficient
>>> quality is registered.  The virtio-rng device is backed by the
>>> hypervisor, and we trust the hypervisor to provide real entropy.  A
>>> malicious hypervisor is a scenario that's ruled out, so we are certain
>>> the quality of randomness we receive is perfectly trustworthy.  Hence,
>>> we use 100% for the factor, indicating maximum confidence in the source.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Amit Shah <amit.shah@...hat.com>
>>
>> It isn't "ruled out", it is just irrelevant: if the hypervisor is
>> malicious, the quality of your random number source is the least of your
>> problems.
> 
> Yea; I meant ruled out in that sense.  Should the commit msg be more
> verbose?
> 

Yes, as it is written it is misleading.

	-hpa


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