linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH RFC] time,signal: protect resource use statistics with seqlock

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Message-ID: <1408095453.5567.6.camel@marge.simpson.net>
Date:	Fri, 15 Aug 2014 11:37:33 +0200
From:	Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@...il.com>
To:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@...fujitsu.com>,
	Frank Mayhar <fmayhar@...gle.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...hat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Sanjay Rao <srao@...hat.com>,
	Larry Woodman <lwoodman@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] time,signal: protect resource use statistics with
 seqlock

On Fri, 2014-08-15 at 08:28 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote: 
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2014 at 07:19:31AM +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > For the N threads doing this on N cores case, seems rq->lock hammering
> > will still be a source of major box wide pain.  Is there any correctness
> > reason to add up unaccounted ->on_cpu beans, or is that just value
> > added?  
> 
> That delta can be arbitrarily large with nohz_full. And without
> nohz_full the error is nr_cpus*TICK_NSEC, which I bet is larger than the
> reported clock resolution.
> 
> Having a non-constant error bound is annoying for you never quite know
> what to expect.

Ah, yeah, that could get rather large.

> Also; why do we care about PROCESS_CPUTIME? People should really not use
> it. What are the 'valid' usecases you guys care about?

I don't care much, said "don't do that" before I saw a similar big box
problem had popped up with times().

-Mike

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