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Message-ID: <1973496.9q6IzlQu6V@vostro.rjw.lan>
Date:	Thu, 11 Sep 2014 16:32:50 +0200
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>
To:	Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>
Cc:	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>, Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@...il.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [Patch v4 1/2] freezer: check OOM kill while being frozen

On Thursday, September 11, 2014 04:10:51 PM Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Thu 11-09-14 16:26:56, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > On Thursday, September 11, 2014 04:04:48 PM Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Thu 11-09-14 16:17:56, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > [...]
> > > > And I'm still wondering if the OOM killer may be made avoid killing frozen
> > > > tasks.
> > > 
> > > This is really tricky. OOM killer aims at the biggest memory hog. We
> > > shouldn't ignore it just because it hides into the fridge... So even
> > > if we "fix" oom killer to ignore frozen tasks (which is inherently
> > > racy btw.) then we have a potential problem of freezer abuse (e.g. in
> > > container environments). So I strongly believe that the OOM killer has
> > > to be able to kill a frozen tasks.
> > 
> > OK
> > 
> > Is the OOM killer the only place where TIF_MEMDIE is set?
> 
> Yes. To be precise, lowmemorykiller (staging android thingy), global OOM
> killer and memcg OOM killer. Any other users would be an abuse.

OK

So can we ensure that those things don't trigger during system suspend (or
equivalent) and then simply use the TIF_MEMDIE check in __refrigerator()?

Rafael

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