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Message-ID: <20141006180217.3b98a67e@bbrezillon>
Date:	Mon, 6 Oct 2014 18:02:17 +0200
From:	Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@...e-electrons.com>
To:	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@...il.com>
Cc:	David Airlie <airlied@...ux.ie>, dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org,
	Nicolas Ferre <nicolas.ferre@...el.com>,
	Jean-Christophe Plagniol-Villard <plagnioj@...osoft.com>,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@...e-electrons.com>,
	Andrew Victor <linux@...im.org.za>,
	Samuel Ortiz <sameo@...ux.intel.com>,
	Lee Jones <lee.jones@...aro.org>, linux-pwm@...r.kernel.org,
	Rob Clark <robdclark@...il.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
	Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@....com>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
	Ian Campbell <ijc+devicetree@...lion.org.uk>,
	Kumar Gala <galak@...eaurora.org>, devicetree@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Mark Yao <mark.yao@...k-chips.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 06/11] drm: add DT bindings documentation for
 atmel-hlcdc-dc driver

On Mon, 6 Oct 2014 16:26:10 +0200
Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@...il.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 03:53:58PM +0200, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > On Mon, 6 Oct 2014 14:35:06 +0200
> > Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@...il.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Mon, Oct 06, 2014 at 02:14:40PM +0200, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 6 Oct 2014 12:54:34 +0200
> > > > Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@...il.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 04:53:03PM +0200, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> > > > > > From: Boris BREZILLON <boris.brezillon@...e-electrons.com>
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The Atmel HLCDC (HLCD Controller) IP available on some Atmel SoCs (i.e.
> > > > > > at91sam9n12, at91sam9x5 family or sama5d3 family) provides a display
> > > > > > controller device.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The HLCDC block provides a single RGB output port, and only supports LCD
> > > > > > panels connection to LCD panels for now.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The atmel,panel property link the HLCDC RGB output with the LCD panel
> > > > > > connected on this port (note that the HLCDC RGB connector implementation
> > > > > > makes use of the DRM panel framework).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Connection to other external devices (DRM bridges) might be added later by
> > > > > > mean of a new atmel,xxx (atmel,bridge) property.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Signed-off-by: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@...e-electrons.com>
> > > > > > ---
> > > > > >  .../devicetree/bindings/drm/atmel-hlcdc-dc.txt     | 53 ++++++++++++++++++++++
> > > > > >  1 file changed, 53 insertions(+)
> > > > > >  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/drm/atmel-hlcdc-dc.txt
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/drm/atmel-hlcdc-dc.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/drm/atmel-hlcdc-dc.txt
> > > > > > new file mode 100644
> > > > > > index 0000000..ebc1a91
> > > > > > --- /dev/null
> > > > > > +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/drm/atmel-hlcdc-dc.txt
> > > > > > @@ -0,0 +1,53 @@
> > > > > > +Device-Tree bindings for Atmel's HLCDC (High LCD Controller) DRM driver
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +The Atmel HLCDC Display Controller is subdevice of the HLCDC MFD device.
> > > > > > +See ../mfd/atmel-hlcdc.txt for more details.
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +Required properties:
> > > > > > + - compatible: value should be "atmel,hlcdc-display-controller"
> > > > > > + - pinctrl-names: the pin control state names. Should contain "default".
> > > > > > + - pinctrl-0: should contain the default pinctrl states.
> > > > > > + - #address-cells: should be set to 1.
> > > > > > + - #size-cells: should be set to 0.
> > > > > > +
> > > > > > +Required children nodes:
> > > > > > + Children nodes are encoding available output ports and their connections
> > > > > > + to external devices using the OF graph reprensentation (see ../graph.txt).
> > > > > > + At least one port node is required.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Are the connections configurable at runtime? Does the SoC have IP blocks
> > > > > for HDMI or other types of outputs or does it provide only RGB output to
> > > > > external blocks?
> > > > 
> > > > No, there's only one RGB output port, but you can connect more than one
> > > > device on the RGB port (should we call it DPI port ?).
> > > > Actually Atmel connected an HDMI encoder and an LCD panel connected on
> > > > the same port on their dev kit.
> > > 
> > > This was discussed in some other thread if I remember correctly. I still
> > > think that the HLCDC node should only contain a single output, no matter
> > > how many encoders or panels get connected.
> > > 
> > > So the output represents the set of signals that exit the IP block, but
> > > what's connected to them on the board is a board-level detail and
> > > therefore should go into the board DTS.
> > > 
> > > In the above case of the Atmel devkit, is there any way to control where
> > > the signal goes or does it just go to both the panel and HDMI encoder at
> > > the same time and it's up to the user to properly configure the output
> > > in order to get either HDMI or panel to display anything?
> > 
> > No there's no way to control where the signal goes.
> > What you can control though, is the activation of the associated
> > encoder/connectors connected on this bus (using dpms).
> 
> But the bus is really only the CRTC, so using DPMS for this is not how
> it's usually done in DRM. Can't you model both outputs as separate
> encoders and then attach them to the CRTC? This should work
> automatically for the framebuffer console and any userspace that can
> talk KMS.

That's exactly what I'm proposing, except there's a layer in between
handling the video bus format configuration.

I just sent you an RFC, proposing an implementation of the DPI/raw-RGB
bus layer.

> 
> Perhaps that's already what's being done and I misunderstand what you're
> saying. I should go back to reviewing the DRM driver. I started this
> morning, then got interrupted by other things.

No problem. I'm glad to see that things are eventually moving on.

-- 
Boris Brezillon, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com
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