linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] pinctrl: baytrail: show output gpio state correctly on Intel Baytrail

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Date:	Fri, 14 Nov 2014 11:53:40 +0200
From:	Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@...ux.intel.com>
To:	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@...aro.org>
Cc:	Greg Kroah-Hartman <greg@...ah.com>,
	David Cohen <david.a.cohen@...ux.intel.com>,
	Felipe Balbi <balbi@...com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-gpio@...r.kernel.org" <linux-gpio@...r.kernel.org>,
	stable <stable@...r.kernel.org>,
	Mathias Nyman <mathias.nyman@...ux.intel.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] pinctrl: baytrail: show output gpio state correctly on
 Intel Baytrail

+Rafael

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 10:39:07AM +0100, Linus Walleij wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 7:57 PM, Mika Westerberg
> <mika.westerberg@...ux.intel.com> wrote:
> > On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 10:05:26AM -0800, David Cohen wrote:
> 
> >> It looks we have an implicit dependency to GPIO driver in Bay Trail, and
> >> having this window until load the module is not acceptable to fulfill
> >> this implicit dependency.
> >
> > It is not implicit at all.
> >
> > The user of the GPIO in ACPI DSDT table says something like:
> >
> >         Name (_DEP, Package () { \_SB.GPO2 })
> >
> > or similar. That is *explicit* dependency. Here \_SB.GPO2 is one of the
> > GPIO banks.
> 
> That's very nice for ACPI. But what do you expect the Linux kernel to
> do with that?

It should prevent the driver from probing until all the devices listed
in _DEP have drivers probed.

However, it turned out that this is not that straightforward after all
:-( For one, it looks like _DEP is used also for non-operation region
dependencies. This is not in the ACPI spec but we have seen this in real
machines out there.

Other thing I heard, is that handling all these dependencies in driver
core might be nightmare to maintain.

> Basically that is just like getting an -EPROBE_DEFER from the
> gpiochip when the gpiod_get() call is issued, and you have to wait
> because the gpiochip is not probed yet. We can solve that at runtime
> right?

Yes we can if the driver core prevents probing the driver.

> I had a discussion with Greg the other day that we have no way of
> expressing inside the kernel that a resource such as a GPIO, a pin,
> a clk or a regulator is used by some module. It's just a synchronous
> gpiod_get() or whatever call, then there is a warning if you remove
> a gpiochip with gpios still in use.
> 
> What is needed to make use of such a dependency mechanism is
> a way to graph the dependencies between kernel drivers and
> the resources (gpios, clocks, regulators...) they provide to other
> drivers, so this information can be used when probing, removing,
> powering up/down the cluster.
> 
> That problem needs to be solved in the device core, until then there
> is not way to actually use that ACPI _DEP property for what I can
> tell.

I agree.

> (On a side note: whoever came up with the idea that ACPI props
> be 4 characters wide and start with an underscore and this
> backslash obfuscation needs to... think differently.)
> 
> Yours,
> Linus Walleij
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