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Date:	Sun, 21 Dec 2014 20:22:21 -0500
From:	Dave Jones <>
To:	Linus Torvalds <>
Cc:	Thomas Gleixner <>, Chris Mason <>,
	Mike Galbraith <>,
	Ingo Molnar <>,
	Peter Zijlstra <>,
	Dâniel Fraga <>,
	Sasha Levin <>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <>,
	Suresh Siddha <>,
	Oleg Nesterov <>,
	Peter Anvin <>
Subject: Re: frequent lockups in 3.18rc4

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 04:52:28PM -0800, Linus Torvalds wrote:
 > > The second time (or third, or fourth - it might not take immediately)
 > > you get a lockup or similar. Bad things happen.
 > I've only tested it twice now, but the first time I got a weird
 > lockup-like thing (things *kind* of worked, but I could imagine that
 > one CPU was stuck with a lock held, because things eventually ground
 > to a screeching halt.
 > The second time I got
 >   INFO: rcu_sched self-detected stall on CPU { 5}  (t=84533 jiffies
 > g=11971 c=11970 q=17)
 > and then
 >    INFO: rcu_sched detected stalls on CPUs/tasks: { 1 2 3 4 5 6 7}
 > (detected by 0, t=291309 jiffies, g=12031, c=12030, q=57)
 > with backtraces that made no sense (because obviously no actual stall
 > had taken place), and were the CPU's mostly being idle.
 > I could easily see it resulting in your softlockup scenario too.

So something trinity does when it doesn't have a better idea of
something to pass a syscall is to generate a random number.

A wild hypothesis could be that we're in one of these situations,
and we randomly generated 0xfed000f0 and passed that as a value to
a syscall, and the kernel wrote 0 to that address.

What syscall could do that, and not just fail a access_ok() or similar
is a mystery though.


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