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Date:	Mon, 29 Dec 2014 14:34:54 -0600
From:	Rob Landley <>
To:	Mimi Zohar <>,
	Christophe Fillot <>
	linux-security-module <>,
	linux-kernel <>
Subject: Re: [Linux-ima-user] Initramfs and IMA Appraisal

On 12/29/2014 07:45 AM, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> On Thu, 2014-11-27 at 10:15 +0100, Christophe Fillot wrote:
>>> Are you using an initrd not an initramfs?  According to
>>> Documentation/filesystems/ramfs-rootfs-initramfs.txt, "If
>>> is enabled, rootfs will use tmpfs instead of ramfs by default".
>> Yes, that what I thought too, but it seems that it is not really the 
>> case because of this test:
>>      if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_TMPFS) && !saved_root_name[0] &&
>>          (!root_fs_names || strstr(root_fs_names, "tmpfs"))) {
>>          err = shmem_init();
>>          is_tmpfs = true;
>>      } else {
>>          err = init_ramfs_fs();
>>      }
> [CC'ing Rob Landley, lsm, lkml]
> Thanks!  "saved_root_name" is set to the boot command line "root="
> option, which in my case is the UUID.  I'm not sure why real root should
> impact the initramfs tmpfs/ramfs decision.
> Unless there is a good explanation, did you want to post a patch to
> remove the test?

I added support last year, here's the start of the patch series:

The logic is that if you specify a fallback root via root=, then you're
not staying on rootfs (that's what root= _means_, "here is the root
filesystem the kernel is to mount over rootfs"), and thus the extra
infrastructure for tmpfs instead of ramfs is unnecessary.

I keep encountering people who set root=/dev/ram0 because they think
that means initrd (it doesn't), and then they feed in a cpio archive
(that's a third state even before you get to the ramfs/tmpfs
distinction), and they always want to change the code to make what they
asked it to do not be crazy...

Possibly the documentation needs to elaborate, but I expect what we
really need is a CONFIG_VERBOSE_ROOT_SETUP that sticks in a bunch of
printfs so the /dev/console output explains what it's doing. ("could not
exec /init out of initramfs (errno %d, file %s), falling back to
root=\nAdd blather=1 to kernel cmdline to see cpio
filenames/permissions.", and so on. Where "actual exec" shows where your
dynamic linker is when that's what wasn't there.)

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