linux-kernel - Re: [RFC 2/2] x86, vdso, pvclock: Simplify and speed up the vdso pvclock reader

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Message-ID: <20150106202054.GA1564@amt.cnet>
Date:	Tue, 6 Jan 2015 18:20:54 -0200
From:	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@...hat.com>
To:	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
Cc:	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
	"xen-devel@...ts.xenproject.org" <xen-devel@...ts.xenproject.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	kvm list <kvm@...r.kernel.org>, Gleb Natapov <gleb@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 2/2] x86, vdso, pvclock: Simplify and speed up the vdso
 pvclock reader

On Tue, Jan 06, 2015 at 11:49:09AM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > What is the point with the new flags bit though?
> 
> To try to work around the problem on old hosts.  I'm not at all
> convinced that this is worthwhile or that it helps, though.

Don't think so. Just fix the host bug.

> >> Also, if you do this, can you also make setting and clearing
> >> STABLE_BIT properly atomic across all vCPUs?  Or at least do something
> >> like setting it last and clearing it first on vPCU 0?
> >
> > If the version "seqlock" works properly across vCPUs, why do you need
> > STABLE_BIT "properly atomic" ?
> >
> > Please define what you mean by "properly atomic".
> >
> 
> I'd like to be able to rely using vCPU 0's pvti even from other vCPUs
> in the vdso if the stable bit is set.  That means that the host should
> avoid doing things like migrating the guest, clearing the stable bit
> for vCPU 1, resuming vCPU 1, and waiting long enough to clear the
> stable bit for vCPU 0 that vCPU 1's vdso code could see invalid data
> and return a bad timestamp.
> 
> Maybe this scenario is impossible, but getting rid of any getcpu-like
> operation in the vdso has really nice benefits. 

You can park every vCPU in host while updating vCPU-0's timestamp.

See kvm_gen_update_masterclock:

+	/* no guest entries from this point */
+	pvclock_update_vm_gtod_copy(kvm);

	- touch guest memory

+	/* guest entries allowed */
+	kvm_for_each_vcpu(i, vcpu, kvm)
+		clear_bit(KVM_REQ_MCLOCK_INPROGRESS, &vcpu->requests);

>  It's faster and it
> lets us guarantee that the vdso's pvti data fits in a single page.
> The latter means that we can easily make it work like the hpet
> mapping, which gets us 32-bit support and will *finally* let us turn
> off user access to the fixmap if vsyscall=none.
> 
> (We can, of course, still do this if the pvti data needs to be an
> array, but it's messier.)
> 
> --Andy
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