linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 2/2] livepatch: disable/enable_patch manners for interdependent patches

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Message-ID: <54C0B735.7070106@huawei.com>
Date:	Thu, 22 Jan 2015 16:39:17 +0800
From:	Li Bin <huawei.libin@...wei.com>
To:	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>
CC:	Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>, Seth Jennings <sjenning@...hat.com>,
	Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@...e.cz>, Jiri Slaby <jslaby@...e.cz>,
	Miroslav Benes <mbenes@...e.cz>,
	<live-patching@...r.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	<lizefan@...wei.com>, <guohanjun@...wei.com>,
	<zhangdianfang@...wei.com>, <xiexiuqi@...wei.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] livepatch: disable/enable_patch manners for interdependent
 patches

On 2015/1/22 11:51, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 08:42:29AM +0800, Li Bin wrote:
>> On 2015/1/21 22:08, Jiri Kosina wrote:
>>> On Wed, 21 Jan 2015, Li Bin wrote:
>>> By this you limit the definition of the patch inter-dependency to just 
>>> symbols. But that's not the only way how patches can depend on it other -- 
>>> the dependency can be semantical.
>>
>> Yes, I agree with you. But I think the other dependencies such as semantical
>> dependency should be judged by the user, like reverting a patch from git repository.
>> Right?
> 
> But with live patching, there are two users: the patch creator (who
> creates the patch module) and the end user (who loads it on their
> system).
> 
> We can assume the patch creator knows what he's doing, but the end user
> doesn't always know or care about low level details like patch
> dependencies.  The easiest and safest way to protect the end user is the
> current approach, which assumes that each patch depends on all
> previously applied patches.

But then, the feature that disable patch dynamically is useless.
For example, if user find a bug be introduced by the last patch and disable
it directly, the new patch is no longer allowed from now unless enable the
old patch firstly but there is a risk window by this way.

> 


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