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Date:	Thu, 12 Feb 2015 16:58:56 +0100
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:	mingo@...nel.org, Michael Ellerman <mpe@...erman.id.au>,
	Anton Blanchard <anton@....ibm.com>,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@...gle.com>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...nel.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] perf: Implement read_group() PMU operation

On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 06:59:15PM -0800, Sukadev Bhattiprolu wrote:
> From: Sukadev Bhattiprolu <sukadev@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
> Date: Thu Feb  5 20:56:20 EST 2015 -0300
> Subject: [RFC][PATCH] perf: Implement read_group() PMU operation
> 
> This is a lightly tested, exploratory patch to allow PMUs to return
> several counters at once. Appreciate any comments :-)
> 
> Unlike normal hardware PMCs, the 24x7 counters[1] in Power8 are stored
> in memory and accessed via a hypervisor call (HCALL).  A major aspect
> of the HCALL is that it allows retireving _SEVERAL_ counters at once
> (unlike regular PMCs, which are read one at a time).
> 
> This patch implements a ->read_group() PMU operation that tries to
> take advantage of this ability to read several counters at once.  A
> PMU that implements the ->read_group() operation would allow users
> to retrieve several counters at once and get a more consistent
> snapshot.
> 
> NOTE: 	This patch has a TODO in h_24x7_event_read_group() in that it
> 	still does multiple HCALLS. I think that can be optimized 
> 	independently, once the pmu->read_group() interface itself is
> 	finalized.
> 
> Appreciate comments on the ->read_group interface and best managing the
> interfaces between the core and PMU layers - eg: Ok for hv-24x7 PMU to
> to walk the ->sibling_list ?


> --- a/kernel/events/core.c
> +++ b/kernel/events/core.c
> @@ -3549,10 +3549,43 @@ static int perf_event_read_group(struct perf_event *event,

You also want perf_output_read_group().

>  	struct perf_event *leader = event->group_leader, *sub;
>  	int n = 0, size = 0, ret = -EFAULT;
>  	struct perf_event_context *ctx = leader->ctx;
> +	u64 *valuesp;
>  	u64 values[5];
> +	int use_group_read;
>  	u64 count, enabled, running;
> +	struct pmu *pmu = event->pmu;
> +
> +	/*
> +	 * If PMU supports group read and group read is requested,
> +	 * allocate memory before taking the mutex.
> +	 */
> +	use_group_read = 0;
> +	if ((read_format & PERF_FORMAT_GROUP) && pmu->read_group) {
> +		use_group_read++;
> +	}
> +
> +	if (use_group_read) {
> +		valuesp = kzalloc(leader->nr_siblings * sizeof(u64), GFP_KERNEL);
> +		if (!valuesp)
> +			return -ENOMEM;
> +	}

This seems 'sad', the hardware already knows how many it can maximally
use at once and can preallocate, right?

>  
>  	mutex_lock(&ctx->mutex);
> +
> +	if (use_group_read) {
> +		ret = pmu->read_group(leader, valuesp, leader->nr_siblings);
> +		if (ret >= 0) {
> +			size = ret * sizeof(u64);
> +
> +			ret = size;
> +			if (copy_to_user(buf, valuesp, size))
> +				ret = -EFAULT;
> +		}
> +
> +		kfree(valuesp);
> +		goto unlock;
> +	}
> +
>  	count = perf_event_read_value(leader, &enabled, &running);
>  
>  	values[n++] = 1 + leader->nr_siblings;

Since ->read() has a void return value, we can delay its effect, so I'm
currently thinking we might want to extend the transaction interface for
this; give pmu::start_txn() a flags argument to indicate scheduling
(add) or reading (read).

So we'd end up with something like:

	pmu->start_txn(pmu, PMU_TXN_READ);

	leader->read();

	for_each_sibling()
		sibling->read();

	pmu->commit_txn();

after which we can use the values updated by the read calls. The trivial
no-support implementation lets read do its immediate thing like it does
now.

A more complex driver can then collect the actual counter values and
execute one hypercall using its pre-allocated memory.

So no allocations in the core code, and no sibling iterations in the
driver code.

Would that work for you?
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