linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v1 4/7] thermal: introduce the Power Allocator governor

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Message-ID: <20150225144849.GA2904@e104805>
Date:	Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:48:49 +0000
From:	Javi Merino <javi.merino@....com>
To:	Eduardo Valentin <edubezval@...il.com>
Cc:	"linux-pm@...r.kernel.org" <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Punit Agrawal <Punit.Agrawal@....com>,
	"broonie@...nel.org" <broonie@...nel.org>,
	Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 4/7] thermal: introduce the Power Allocator governor

Hi Eduardo,

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 06:21:26PM +0000, Eduardo Valentin wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 05:00:35PM +0000, Javi Merino wrote:
> > +
> > +k_d
> > +---
> > +
> > +`k_d` configures the PID loop's derivative term constant.  It's
> > +recommended to leave it as the default: 0.
> > +
> 
> I know we are considering K_d = 0. However, ...
> 
> <yet another big cut>
> 
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Calculate the derivative term
> > +	 *
> > +	 * We do err - prev_err, so with a positive k_d, a decreasing
> > +	 * error (i.e. driving closer to the line) results in less
> > +	 * power being applied, slowing down the controller)
> > +	 */
> > +	d = mul_frac(tz->tzp->k_d, err - params->prev_err);
> 
> 
> ... Shouldn't the above d component consider the rate of changes over time of the error?
> 
> I would expect you should do:
> d = k_d * (dE / dt)
> 
> or
> 
> d = K_d * ((err - params->prev_err) / sampling_period)
> 
> in plain C:
> 
> +	d = mul_frac(tz->tzp->k_d, err - params->prev_err);
> +	d /= tz->passive_polling; /* might require fixed point division */

Could do.  To be honest, both k_d and passive_polling are constants so
I don't think you get anything by doing this other than the added
complexity of the fixed point division.  As you said, the default k_d
is 0, so I'm not strongly against it.

Cheers,
Javi
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