linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH RFC 0/2] add nproc cgroup subsystem

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Message-ID: <CAAAKZwv=idxvrffHx2QyW=PGH4k42ckq-VLJGQrXkeQ6NmByRQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Sat, 28 Feb 2015 14:26:58 -0800
From:	Tim Hockin <thockin@...kin.org>
To:	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
Cc:	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
	Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@...il.com>,
	Li Zefan <lizefan@...wei.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Cgroups <cgroups@...r.kernel.org>,
	Aleksa Sarai <cyphar@...har.com>, richard <richard@....at>,
	mingo <mingo@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 0/2] add nproc cgroup subsystem

On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 8:57 AM, Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 08:48:12AM -0800, Tim Hockin wrote:
> > I am sorry that real-user problems are not perceived as substantial.  This
> > was/is a real issue for us.  Being in limbo for years on end might not be a
> > technical point, but I do think it matters, and that was my point.
>
> It's a problem which is localized to you and caused by the specific
> problems of your setup.  This isn't a wide-spread problem at all and
> the world doesn't revolve around you.  If your setup is so messed up
> as to require sticking to 16bit pids, handle that locally.  If
> something at larger scale eases that handling, you get lucky.  If not,
> it's *your* predicament to deal with.  The rest of the world doesn't
> exist to wipe your ass.

Wow, so much anger.  I'm not even sure how to respond, so I'll just
say this and sign off.  All I want is a better, friendlier, more
useful system overall.  We clearly have different ways of looking at
the problem.

No antagonism intended

Tim
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