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Message-ID: <20150415094410.GB2282@pd.tnic>
Date:	Wed, 15 Apr 2015 11:44:11 +0200
From:	Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>
To:	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Cc:	Richard Weinberger <richard@....at>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	Al Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Tom Gundersen <teg@...m.no>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Daniel Mack <daniel@...que.org>,
	David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@...il.com>,
	Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@...ndz.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1

On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:27:13AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:21:49AM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 11:20:34AM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > > > We're all forced to use cgroups, systemd, udev unless we want to have busybox
> > > > as userland. That's a fact.
> > > 
> > > Is that a problem?
> > 
> > I'm amazed that you're really actually asking that question :-(
> 
> Really?  Why can't userspace rely on the features that the kernel
> provides them?

Userspace can do whatever it wants. As long as I'm not being *forced* to
do what userspace thinks is the right thing.

It seems to me that since that whole systemd* debacle started, we're
forgetting the choice aspect.

And dammit, I want my choice. I want to be able to choose what I'm
running. Not run what someone else thought what would be good for me to
run. If I wanted that, I'd long switched to windoze or äbble.

-- 
Regards/Gruss,
    Boris.

ECO tip #101: Trim your mails when you reply.
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