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Message-ID: <55363DD8.8020303@gmail.com>
Date:	Tue, 21 Apr 2015 08:08:56 -0400
From:	Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@...il.com>
To:	George Spelvin <linux@...izon.com>, gregkh@...uxfoundation.org,
	richard.weinberger@...il.com
CC:	bp@...en8.de, jkosina@...e.cz, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	luto@...capital.net, martin@...htvoll.de, richard@....at,
	umgwanakikbuti@...il.com, viro@...IV.linux.org.uk
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1

On 2015-04-20 16:26, George Spelvin wrote:
>> It's used everywhere, on servers,
>> embedded systems, desktops, you name it.  All languages have bindings
>> for it, and it's the underpinning of a modern Linux stack.
>
> Since when?  D-bus is some GUI depoendency.  On my console-only servers, it's
> not needed, and not installed:
>
> # dpkg-query -s libdbus-1-3 dbus
> dpkg-query: package 'libdbus-1-3' is not installed and no information is available
> dpkg-query: package 'dbus' is not installed and no information is available
> # dpkg-query -l \*dbus\*
> dpkg-query: no packages found matching *dbus*

Same here, but I use Gentoo, so it's easy to avoid stuff you don't want ;)
[...]
> Richard Weinberger wrote:
> And no systemd.  Udev actually does something useful, so I have it on my
> desktop, but I have machines with a static /dev instead.
Likewise, I get by just fine with OpenRC, eudev, and Monit, the 
combination of which provides all the functionality of SystemD that I 
actually care about.


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