linux-kernel - Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1

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Message-ID: <21825.12510.810320.403463@quad.stoffel.home>
Date:	Wed, 29 Apr 2015 15:28:30 -0400
From:	"John Stoffel" <john@...ffel.org>
To:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
Cc:	John Stoffel <john@...ffel.org>, Harald Hoyer <harald@...hat.com>,
	Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@...il.com>,
	"linux-kernel\@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1

>>>>> "Steven" == Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org> writes:

Steven> On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 12:26:59PM -0400, John Stoffel wrote:
>> 
>> If your customers wnat this feature, you're more than welcome to fork
>> the kernel and support it yourself.  Oh wait... Redhat does that
>> already.  So what's the problem?   Just put it into RHEL (which I use
>> I admit, along with Debian/Mint) and be done with it.

Steven> Red Hat tries very hard to push things upstream. It's policy
Steven> is to not keep things for themselves, but always work with the
Steven> community. That way, everyone benefits. Ideally, we should
Steven> come up with a solution that works for all.

Yeah, I agree they have been good.  I'm just reacting to the off the
cuff comment of "my customers need it" which isn't a justification for
this feature, esp when it hasn't been shown to be needed in the
kernel.  

We went through alot of this with tux the in-kernel httpd server, and
pushing other stuff out to user-space over the years.  Why this needs
to come in isn't clear.  Or why not just a small part needing to come
in with the rest in userspace.   

John
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