linux-kernel - Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1

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Message-ID: <5543A073.8060506@gmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 01 May 2015 11:49:07 -0400
From:	Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@...il.com>
To:	Harald Hoyer <harald@...hat.com>, John Stoffel <john@...ffel.org>,
	Havoc Pennington <hp@...ox.com>
CC:	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>,
	Lukasz Skalski <l.skalski@...sung.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@...ssion.com>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Tom Gundersen <teg@...m.no>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Daniel Mack <daniel@...que.org>,
	David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@...il.com>,
	Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@...ndz.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] kdbus for 4.1-rc1

On 2015-04-29 08:47, Harald Hoyer wrote:
> Until then the whole common IPC problem is unresolved and Linux
> distributions are just a collection of random software with no common
> interoperability and home grown interfaces.
I don't know how I managed to not notice this comment before, but I find 
it particularly hilarious.
The part about 'no common interoperability' is just plain BS with the 
exception of some of the insanity being touted by systemd advocates and 
the insanity that is accessibility software on linux, you can easily 
string together pretty much arbitrary strings of commands using fifo's 
to achieve almost anything; the actual interoperability issues (WRT to 
the command line at least, which is where all the stuff you are 
complaining about works) come up only with stuff (like journald for 
example) that just refuses to use text interfaces on the command-line.
Also, the 'home grown interfaces' you are complaining about are used on 
every operating system (not just Linux or other Unix progeny) every day, 
and no amount of better IPC is going to stop that; furthermore, almost 
every current 'standard' protocol or interface used on the internet 
started out as a 'home grown interface' (TCP/IP immediately comes to 
mind, followed shortly by NFS, SMTP, WebDAV, SSH, XML, JSON, and a whole 
slew of others).


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